All Blacks 2024
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Where the fuck did those goalposts go
Would you not want to see how a HB operates under pressure in case you select him and he melts under pressure.
Or hope at test level you are going to dominate every pack you come up against.
Selection is looking at every angle not just looking at the highlights I think.We're getting a long way from having more super rugby experience is the overriding factor.
Not really it is all relevant and tied in to experience.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Where the fuck did those goalposts go
Would you not want to see how a HB operates under pressure in case you select him and he melts under pressure.
Or hope at test level you are going to dominate every pack you come up against.
Selection is looking at every angle not just looking at the highlights I think.We're getting a long way from having more super rugby experience is the overriding factor.
Not really it is all relevant and tied in to experience.
Yup, a lot of factors go into selection, but I asked a question and you went off on a completely different subject.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life and then not released for npc when that starts, say what you want about the comp, but nothing builds match fitness like playing actual rugby...then that causes other issues come super time with guys that play 12 minutes of international rugby are to be rested in super rugby.
Shouldn't you should be complaining about it to the player's association.
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It's worth noting there's under 2 weeks from Razor's first squad naming until the first test
That may hint towards a more conservative squad selection initially.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
It's worth noting there's under 2 weeks from Razor's first squad naming until the first test
That may hint towards a more conservative squad selection initially.
I was surprised, as previously it has been after the semis, I think? And that is with an existing coaching group. You would get a decent start on you squad, and some training extras just for numbers & a quick look, if they announced after the semis or even quarters. 2 weeks is not long for brand new set up!
From an article in The Roar
But the inescapable perception is that Cane was Foster’s man, the one sitting beside him when the All Blacks lost to Argentina for the first time, when they dropped a series to Ireland, when they were walloped for the worst loss in the team’s history last year against the Springboks.
He’s also the man who put in what was arguably the greatest individual performance at flanker since McCaw, when the All Blacks beat Ireland in an epic quarterfinal. A player who put his body on the line so much for the jersey he broke his neck in a Test. That in itself should be the first thing people remember Sam Cane for, however once he hangs up his boots for good and decides to give his honest side of the story, that may well be pretty memorable too.
Pretty fair I think, he had some great games but some real shockers and is tarnished as the continuity Foster boy - esp when he often was nowhere near the best 7. If he is injured until Aug and no games since Jan, there is no way he should be in ABs - he's not McCaw up to speed in 5 seconds and that is long break. On top of going from Japan League to Test rugby
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life and then not released for npc when that starts, say what you want about the comp, but nothing builds match fitness like playing actual rugby...then that causes other issues come super time with guys that play 12 minutes of international rugby are to be rested in super rugby.
Shouldn't you should be complaining about it to the player's association.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life and then not released for npc when that starts, say what you want about the comp, but nothing builds match fitness like playing actual rugby...then that causes other issues come super time with guys that play 12 minutes of international rugby are to be rested in super rugby.
Shouldn't you should be complaining about it to the player's association.
@ruggabee honestly don't care that much to bother even if they cared what I thought.
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England capped dick fingers Brad Shields?
the bots are getting so bad
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
England capped dick fingers Brad Shields?
It's the oil from the fish and chips, mate.
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@Victor-Meldrew Bryn Hall a few rugby pods ago said the Razor likes to have a few of his 'supporters' in the sheds to facilitate the message. Havili and Reece are about the only two Saders backs showing enough to be considered!
And why Bower might also squeeze in.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew Bryn Hall a few rugby pods ago said the Razor likes to have a few of his 'supporters' in the sheds to facilitate the message.
Of course those donkeys would support him if it got them an undeserved AB cap.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Where the fuck did those goalposts go
Would you not want to see how a HB operates under pressure in case you select him and he melts under pressure.
Or hope at test level you are going to dominate every pack you come up against.
Selection is looking at every angle not just looking at the highlights I think.@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Where the fuck did those goalposts go
Would you not want to see how a HB operates under pressure in case you select him and he melts under pressure.
Or hope at test level you are going to dominate every pack you come up against.
Selection is looking at every angle not just looking at the highlights I think.Then that makes the possible selection of Christie even more baffling. Armchair ride - still shit.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Where the fuck did those goalposts go
Would you not want to see how a HB operates under pressure in case you select him and he melts under pressure.
Or hope at test level you are going to dominate every pack you come up against.
Selection is looking at every angle not just looking at the highlights I think.Then that makes the possible selection of Christie even more baffling. Armchair ride - still shit.
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Where the fuck did those goalposts go
Would you not want to see how a HB operates under pressure in case you select him and he melts under pressure.
Or hope at test level you are going to dominate every pack you come up against.
Selection is looking at every angle not just looking at the highlights I think.Then that makes the possible selection of Christie even more baffling. Armchair ride - still shit.
Maybe he won’t get selected this year.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
Drummy, Drummy, Drummy!
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
I'd like to think looking at Funaki specifically selectors would also factor in his ability to get himself out of trouble (physicality and decision making) and his accurate passing also contributes to the forward pack going forward.
He helps contribute to the Blues pack going forward.
Not to mention how well Funaki played in a game where the opposition forward pack fronted (Reds)
Not expecting Funaki to get named but he is worthy of consideration on form.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
I'd like to think looking at Funaki specifically selectors would also factor in his ability to get himself out of trouble (physicality and decision making) and his accurate passing also contributes to the forward pack going forward.
He helps contribute to the Blues pack going forward.
Not to mention how well Funaki played in a game where the opposition forward pack fronted (Reds)
Not expecting Funaki to get named but he is worthy of consideration on form.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
I'd like to think looking at Funaki specifically selectors would also factor in his ability to get himself out of trouble (physicality and decision making) and his accurate passing also contributes to the forward pack going forward.
He helps contribute to the Blues pack going forward.
Not to mention how well Funaki played in a game where the opposition forward pack fronted (Reds)
Not expecting Funaki to get named but he is worthy of consideration on form.
I think Funaki is probably behind Ratima in the pecking order. Would prefer either player to Fakatava at this stage.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
England capped dick fingers Brad Shields?
It's the oil from the fish and chips, mate.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
England capped dick fingers Brad Shields?
It's the oil from the fish and chips, mate.
I thought his hands got stuck in toasters ?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
they have more SR minutes under their belts than Funaki.
Is this really a plus though? If Funaki can be playing as good, or better in less minutes, then surely that's a pro rather than a con.
I suppose it depends how they look at it operating behind a forward pack which is going forward mostly gives him an arm chair ride,compared to HBs operating under more stress and going backwards a lot so performing under pressure more.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Maybe he won’t get selected this year.
Perenara, Funaki, Ratima... PLEASE Razor
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Maybe he won’t get selected this year.
Perenara, Funaki, Ratima... PLEASE Razor
Think the latter 2 may get a run this year, but I'd expect Christie to be in his first squad on experience. TJP to start. If TJP injured, then roll the dice - Christie in the starting XV makes me nervious.
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@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Maybe he won’t get selected this year.
Perenara, Funaki, Ratima... PLEASE Razor
Think the latter 2 may get a run this year, but I'd expect Christie to be in his first squad on experience. TJP to start. If TJP injured, then roll the dice - Christie in the starting XV makes me nervious.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Maybe he won’t get selected this year.
Perenara, Funaki, Ratima... PLEASE Razor
Think the latter 2 may get a run this year, but I'd expect Christie to be in his first squad on experience. TJP to start. If TJP injured, then roll the dice - Christie in the starting XV makes me nervious.
I just can't see the point in selecting on experience in this case. It's not like any other selection is an absolute rookie and the experience you're selecting isn't that great when he's in form, let alone when he's looking in poor form.
If TJ gets injured then maybe throw him a bone to sit on the bench.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Maybe he won’t get selected this year.
Perenara, Funaki, Ratima... PLEASE Razor
Think the latter 2 may get a run this year, but I'd expect Christie to be in his first squad on experience. TJP to start. If TJP injured, then roll the dice - Christie in the starting XV makes me nervious.
I just can't see the point in selecting on experience in this case. It's not like any other selection is an absolute rookie and the experience you're selecting isn't that great when he's in form, let alone when he's looking in poor form.
If TJ gets injured then maybe throw him a bone to sit on the bench.
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TBH I agree with you and Christie is limited at Test level. Just think they'll be nervous about picking one of two Test rookies against England and will go with Christie.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
TBH I agree with you and Christie is limited at Test level. Just think they'll be nervous about picking one of two Test rookies against England and will go with Christie.
I could understand the logic if it was TJ in Christie's form and vice versa. I just don't think Christie's experience shines out, nor has he proved a worthy performer.
It'll be disappointing if that's the path they take.
It's only England...
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Robertson clearly has the hots for Havili though so I think we'll see him in the squad to cover 10 & 12. Going forward, I'm keeping an eye on Quinn Tupaea - he seems to be getting back to some good form.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Robertson clearly has the hots for Havili though so I think we'll see him in the squad to cover 10 & 12. Going forward, I'm keeping an eye on Quinn Tupaea - he seems to be getting back to some good form.
The way JK was talking on Breakdown, Havili's ability to play 10, 12 ,13 and 15 would be attractive to Razor.
