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    Assuming all but Roigard fit, starting 9 will be between Christie and TJ. In which event for me third 9 between Ratima and Funaki.

    If Christie out I’d plump for Ratima to start with TJ on bench. I’m which case Fakatava must come into mix.

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    • M Mr Fish

      If Perenara is selected to start at 9, there's zero doubt in my mind that everyone on here will be complaining endlessly when he's inevitably giving the backline terrible service in July.

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      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      If Perenara is selected to start at 9, there's zero doubt in my mind that everyone on here will be complaining endlessly when he's inevitably giving the backline terrible service in July.

      Huge claim but at least one we'll get to see proved wrong.

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        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        If Perenara is selected to start at 9, there's zero doubt in my mind that everyone on here will be complaining endlessly when he's inevitably giving the backline terrible service in July.

        Huge claim but at least one we'll get to see proved wrong.

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        @Bones nice try.

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          @Bones nice try.

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          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Bones nice try.

          Pourquoi

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            Assuming all but Roigard fit, starting 9 will be between Christie and TJ. In which event for me third 9 between Ratima and Funaki.

            If Christie out I’d plump for Ratima to start with TJ on bench. I’m which case Fakatava must come into mix.

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            @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Assuming all but Roigard fit, starting 9 will be between Christie and TJ. In which event for me third 9 between Ratima and Funaki.

            If Christie out I’d plump for Ratima to start with TJ on bench. I’m which case Fakatava must come into mix.

            Fakatava should be nowhere near the All Blacks, for every cool no look pass there is half a dozen bad decisions and shitty passes.

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              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.

              Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.

              Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.

              I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.

              Perenara is a good option and an experienced option. Perenara has been in fine form, not sure who you’ve been watching if you think he isn’t out top halfback atm. His pass has been a bit shaper than a couple years ago aswell in my view. A big reason is his fitness, the silver lining of spending so long on the sidelines is was he was able to spend time working on improving his skillset aswell as getting into the best shape of his life.

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              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.

              Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.

              Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.

              I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.

              Perenara is a good option and an experienced option. Perenara has been in fine form, not sure who you’ve been watching if you think he isn’t out top halfback atm. His pass has been a bit shaper than a couple years ago aswell in my view. A big reason is his fitness, the silver lining of spending so long on the sidelines is was he was able to spend time working on improving his skillset aswell as getting into the best shape of his life.

              Seems to be mentally hungry as well, it appears when injured he had one focus and that was to become a better 9 than he was. To me it appears he has been successful and the fact he is in the race speaks volumes of his dedication.

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                Is Tavatavanawai eligible ? He has qualities that most other wings don't have. He is the best jackal in NZ and a strong battering ram. Not sure about his speed, his catching of high balls and his kicking, though.

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                  Is Tavatavanawai eligible ? He has qualities that most other wings don't have. He is the best jackal in NZ and a strong battering ram. Not sure about his speed, his catching of high balls and his kicking, though.

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                  @cgrant he's good under the high ball (althought more of a catch on the run rather than out leap everyone else) and passable kicker, think he's only played U20s for fiji

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                    We're flush with quality wingers though, Clarke, Telea, Reece, Narawa.

                    I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

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                    • Windows97W Windows97

                      We're flush with quality wingers though, Clarke, Telea, Reece, Narawa.

                      I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

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                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                      He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

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                        i would say reece HAS to be in there somewhere, he one of the few people that has worked directly under razor AND still performing in SRP, ticks all the boxes

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                          He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

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                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                          He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

                          I hope Razor deosn't see him as too small, it certainly hasn't affected Reece on attack given he score tries off the pick and go close to the line.

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                            As far as bolters making the squad I'd like to see Lakai, Funaki and Millar given a shot.

                            Lakai has played consistently well all season and made quite the impact, good on the carry, good on the clean and is young and up and coming. Deserves some time in camp.

                            Funaki has made every post a winner this season, confident and decisive at the back of the ruck, good pass, good running game and can keep defenders on their toes.

                            Millar who I admit I've never heard of before has really impressed me the last few weeks. Very good tactical kicking game, very accurate off the tee, low error rate, good decision making. The AB's have lacked a consistently good goal kicker since Carter left unfortuntely which has cost us in tight matches (like the RWC final). I think his style of play suits pressure, test match footy.

                            I'd just like to see some up and coming guys given a go.

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                              im as one eyed about otago players and anyone....and millar would be a huge smokie....4 weeks ago he would have been 3rd choice for the Highlanders...maybe even 4th behind Gilbert...playing someone like Millar decides how you are going to play...little versatility

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                                Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                                I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

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                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                                  He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

                                  I hope Razor deosn't see him as too small, it certainly hasn't affected Reece on attack given he score tries off the pick and go close to the line.

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                                  @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                                  He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

                                  I hope Razor deosn't see him as too small, it certainly hasn't affected Reece on attack given he score tries off the pick and go close to the line.

                                  Size would be for defence work I suspect.

                                  Look I have rated him for some time - his workrate is awesome ... but trying to understand why the ABs prefer others there.

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                                    @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                                    He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

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                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                                    Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                                      I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                                      I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

                                      Yeah Millar is one of the most ridiculous suggestions in quite a while, especially when Plummer has been making every post a winner. I'd be interested to see kicking stats compared...

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                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                                        Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                                        Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

                                        mate, this is the Fern. I'm guessing.

                                        I don't know why they didn't play him more - I htink he's dynamite

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                                          Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

                                          mate, this is the Fern. I'm guessing.

                                          I don't know why they didn't play him more - I htink he's dynamite

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                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                                          Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

                                          mate, this is the Fern. I'm guessing.

                                          I don't know why they didn't play him more - I htink he's dynamite

                                          You're not falling into the same trap as me referencing last year when he was injured are you?

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