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Super Rugby - The Future

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Tim Most Euro sides would do longer when playing in Capetown and vice versa?

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    @taniwharugby Apparently London to Cape Town is 11h35m.

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      @taniwharugby Apparently London to Cape Town is 11h35m.

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      @Tim little to no time difference though which i think is almost a bigger problem...but as i say, stuff it

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @mariner4life

        They've suggested regional pools to keep travel down. That'll probably happen. Long bus rides and people sleeping in their own beds more often

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        @Duluth said in Super Rugby - The Future:

        @mariner4life

        They've suggested regional pools to keep travel down. That'll probably happen. Long bus rides and people sleeping in their own beds more often

        That'd be much better; how easy to get a few more coaches for the travelling fans!

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @Duluth said in Super Rugby - The Future:

          @mariner4life

          They've suggested regional pools to keep travel down. That'll probably happen. Long bus rides and people sleeping in their own beds more often

          That'd be much better; how easy to get a few more coaches for the travelling fans!

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          @antipodean that would be pretty sweet

          how about kiwirail puts on some passenger trains, normally similar travel time but the players can get up and move around a bit

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @antipodean that would be pretty sweet

            how about kiwirail puts on some passenger trains, normally similar travel time but the players can get up and move around a bit

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby - The Future:

            how about kiwirail puts on some passenger trains

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            • TimT Tim

              @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby - The Future:

              how about kiwirail puts on some passenger trains

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              @Tim what is this place if not somewhere we can dream

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              • TimT Tim

                @Duluth Still a long flight from Auckland (10h 45m).

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                @Tim said in Super Rugby - The Future:

                @Duluth Still a long flight from Auckland (10h 45m).

                Singapore?? Or Japan

                Singapore is a bit hot for rugby during this period.

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                • WingerW Winger

                  @Tim said in Super Rugby - The Future:

                  @Duluth Still a long flight from Auckland (10h 45m).

                  Singapore?? Or Japan

                  Singapore is a bit hot for rugby during this period.

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                  @Winger and im sure they'll find dunedin or invercargill a bit chilly...home advantage

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

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                    @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                    as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

                    Well it has to otherwise it is unsustainable to have so many pro teams in NZ.
                    NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                      as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

                      Well it has to otherwise it is unsustainable to have so many pro teams in NZ.
                      NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

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                      @Chris said in NZR review:

                      @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                      as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

                      Well it has to otherwise it is unsustainable to have so many pro teams in NZ.
                      > NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                      And it should be based in The Bay

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                        of Plenty

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                          as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

                          Well it has to otherwise it is unsustainable to have so many pro teams in NZ.
                          NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

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                          @Chris said in NZR review:

                          NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                          There should be a few more IMO

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            of Plenty

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                            @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                            of Plenty

                            Slap in half-way inbetween and give the team the Taupo. That way the Bay's can have split ownership.

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                            • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                              @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                              of Plenty

                              Slap in half-way inbetween and give the team the Taupo. That way the Bay's can have split ownership.

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                              @SouthernMann said in NZR review:

                              @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                              of Plenty

                              Slap in half-way inbetween and give the team the Taupo. That way the Bay's can have split ownership.

                              King Country leaps from Heartland to Super, I love it.

                              It would be beautiful to see the meltdown.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @SouthernMann said in NZR review:

                                @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                                of Plenty

                                Slap in half-way inbetween and give the team the Taupo. That way the Bay's can have split ownership.

                                King Country leaps from Heartland to Super, I love it.

                                It would be beautiful to see the meltdown.

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                                @gt12 said in NZR review:

                                @SouthernMann said in NZR review:

                                @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                                of Plenty

                                Slap in half-way inbetween and give the team the Taupo. That way the Bay's can have split ownership.

                                King Country leaps from Heartland to Super, I love it.

                                It would be beautiful to see the meltdown.

                                They play in orange and are called the Vikings.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Chris said in NZR review:

                                  NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                  There should be a few more IMO

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                                  @Duluth said in NZR review:

                                  @Chris said in NZR review:

                                  NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                  There should be a few more IMO

                                  i think how little this gets talked about is what makes me hold on too the NPC, if every time they talked about winding the NPC down too a amateur rep team/comp they also talked about ramping up the Super Rugby saturation with another couple of teams i would be more on board....im just worried we're going to lose the NPC (im not sure i will regain much meaning)...but just have the same 5 super teams...and it will be just a bit boring

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                                    as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

                                    Well it has to otherwise it is unsustainable to have so many pro teams in NZ.
                                    NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

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                                    @Chris said in NZR review:

                                    @mariner4life said in NZR review:

                                    as it should. make it a rep comp for club players. it will have genuine meaning again

                                    Well it has to otherwise it is unsustainable to have so many pro teams in NZ.
                                    NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                    I can't see them winding up super rugby.

                                    So, it seems pretty clear that Duluth's idea is the best here, make the NPC an amateur competition and split the Super sides roughly down the middle (Southland isn't getting one) so there are about 8-10 of them.

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Duluth said in NZR review:

                                      @Chris said in NZR review:

                                      NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                      There should be a few more IMO

                                      i think how little this gets talked about is what makes me hold on too the NPC, if every time they talked about winding the NPC down too a amateur rep team/comp they also talked about ramping up the Super Rugby saturation with another couple of teams i would be more on board....im just worried we're going to lose the NPC (im not sure i will regain much meaning)...but just have the same 5 super teams...and it will be just a bit boring

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in NZR review:

                                      @Duluth said in NZR review:

                                      @Chris said in NZR review:

                                      NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                      There should be a few more IMO

                                      i think how little this gets talked about is what makes me hold on too the NPC, if every time they talked about winding the NPC down too a amateur rep team/comp they also talked about ramping up the Super Rugby saturation with another couple of teams i would be more on board....im just worried we're going to lose the NPC (im not sure i will regain much meaning)...but just have the same 5 super teams...and it will be just a bit boring

                                      If we could stretch it to 7/8 teams. Work out what can be done to support Australia. May be open up eligibility of our players over there. Get a Japanese team, Argentina, get MP based in the Pacific we could have a decent competition. Especially if the sponsorship money from the NPC gets re-directed to our Super sides. We have teams in North/ Harbour/Northland, Waikato, Taupo, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago. Decent split

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                                        additional teams does introduce an interesting discussion, do we think they will be tapping into a "new" fan base, people that might follow NPC teams but dont bother with super rugby to any great extent becasue they dont have a local team...how many of those people are there? or are they looking to attract fans that currently support someone else, how do you go about convincing someone to change who they support? super rugby obviously had the fact all the teams were new, everyone started with a clean slate for this comp

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                                        • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in NZR review:

                                          @Duluth said in NZR review:

                                          @Chris said in NZR review:

                                          NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                          There should be a few more IMO

                                          i think how little this gets talked about is what makes me hold on too the NPC, if every time they talked about winding the NPC down too a amateur rep team/comp they also talked about ramping up the Super Rugby saturation with another couple of teams i would be more on board....im just worried we're going to lose the NPC (im not sure i will regain much meaning)...but just have the same 5 super teams...and it will be just a bit boring

                                          If we could stretch it to 7/8 teams. Work out what can be done to support Australia. May be open up eligibility of our players over there. Get a Japanese team, Argentina, get MP based in the Pacific we could have a decent competition. Especially if the sponsorship money from the NPC gets re-directed to our Super sides. We have teams in North/ Harbour/Northland, Waikato, Taupo, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago. Decent split

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                                          @SouthernMann said in NZR review:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in NZR review:

                                          @Duluth said in NZR review:

                                          @Chris said in NZR review:

                                          NZ then will need another SR team to sustain the depth in mo.

                                          There should be a few more IMO

                                          i think how little this gets talked about is what makes me hold on too the NPC, if every time they talked about winding the NPC down too a amateur rep team/comp they also talked about ramping up the Super Rugby saturation with another couple of teams i would be more on board....im just worried we're going to lose the NPC (im not sure i will regain much meaning)...but just have the same 5 super teams...and it will be just a bit boring

                                          If we could stretch it to 7/8 teams. Work out what can be done to support Australia. May be open up eligibility of our players over there. Get a Japanese team, Argentina, get MP based in the Pacific we could have a decent competition. Especially if the sponsorship money from the NPC gets re-directed to our Super sides. We have teams in North/ Harbour/Northland, Waikato, Taupo, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago. Decent split

                                          I hope you are actually stirring with the Taupo comment, and I like it, but Tauranga should be inline to get a team.

                                          By population, it would roughly be, if 8 teams plus MP (representing South Auckland):

                                          North Auckland, Auckland (Blues), Hamilton (Chiefs), Tauranga, Hawkes / Vikings, Wellington (Hurricanes), Christchurch (Saders), Dunedin (Landers)

                                          If we added another, I would say a straight shoot out between Nelson and New Plymouth.

                                          Edit: Arguably, the places where a super team could more easily take off would be the places where they don't really represent the region, so splitting the Chiefs into 3, and Hurricanes into at least two feels easiest.

                                          The North Auckland / Ta$man ones I'm not so sure.

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