All Blacks 2024
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2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.
Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.
If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.
Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?
Taylor seems a little more articulate than the others from what I’ve seen.
The AB captain needs to be the best in their position. Barrett, Taylor and Savea tick that box, Dalton arguably doesn’t so that rules him out right away. I’m only echoing what’s been in the media. Dalton hasn’t been mentioned as a possibility from what I’ve read. Not sure why everyone’s getting so defensive.
Dalton isn’t even the Blues captain.
@Canes4life If you appoint Taylor as captain then you need a trusted VC as Taylor won't be playing the full 80 mins.
Using @Tim's criteria, I'm with you on Papalii. He's not exactly Mensa material.
I think it will be SB but the back injury could be a concern.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?
Yeah what has that got do with anything I put it up becomes people were wondering what the roles are.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?
Well his Dad was selected as a specialist captain despite not being the best in his position…..
….and EB doesn’t play enough to prove things either way so why not ?
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I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?
You might be on the money there, he is the GOAT after all.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
Aha, so now you're saying Iose is a better 8 than Savea? Well I never.
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Cullen had the misfortune of being compared to himself in his hey day rather than against other players, he was definitely the best fullback in 03 but he didn't have much left in him at that stage. I think we could have gotten another season out of him, but begrudgingly can see why they wanted to look forward given his injuries. His treatment by Bitchell was unforgiveable for an AB great to be cast aside the way he was though.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Cullen had the misfortune of being compared to himself in his hey day rather than against other players, he was definitely the best fullback in 03 but he didn't have much left in him at that stage. I think we could have gotten another season out of him, but begrudgingly can see why they wanted to look forward given his injuries. His treatment by Bitchell was unforgiveable for an AB great to be cast aside the way he was though.
It was Deans, he selected the backline, read Umaga's book he didn't rate Tana and Christian right from the beginning and tried to create a backline consisting entirely of light & gangly Crusaders like Leon McDonald, Aaron Mauger, Ben Blair, Caleb Ralph, Mark Robinson, etc..
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
Aha, so now you're saying Iose is a better 8 than Savea? Well I never.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.
Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.
Aha, so now you're saying Iose is a better 8 than Savea? Well I never.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Iose is a better 8 than Savea
Lol this guy.
Pretty logical step to make when you say if Paps is captain it won't harm Iose's chances. I'd assumed if it was the case, Savea would be 8....
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@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
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@ruggabee I have memories of absolutely fuming when Ronbinson was selected ahead of Umaga for a test. Absolutely outrageous selection.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Iose is a better 8 than Savea
Lol this guy.
Pretty logical step to make when you say if Paps is captain it won't harm Iose's chances. I'd assumed if it was the case, Savea would be 8....
@Bones I don't have Iose in the ABs. Yes, he's been in good form for the Canes but he misses out unfortunately because they'll pick Savea as a 7/8 and Sotutu who's also been in great touch.
If you read above I actually said I wouldn't mind seeing a loosie combination of 6. Finau 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Blackadder off the bench, Paps waiting in the wings and then Lakai as the apprentice / another guy that can cover all three positions.
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@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
Yeah and before anyone says Umaga was injured, he wasn't as I've had chats about this with his son Kade years back. Shocking selection.
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@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
Screw that, Mils scored in the corner.
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@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
Yeah and before anyone says Umaga was injured, he wasn't as I've had chats about this with his son Kade years back. Shocking selection.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:
Mils at Centre?
Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.
Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.
Yeah and before anyone says Umaga was injured, he wasn't as I've had chats about this with his son Kade years back. Shocking selection.
Prior to the SF, Umaga, as the player's representative, came forward to Mitchell and said they were uncomfortable with the fact he was having an extra-marital affair with someone in the AB backroom staff.
