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EPL 2023/2024

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    I reckon if you stretched that out to semi finalists you wouldn't add many clubs.

    And considering you are talking a competition covering the whole of Europe, you've got the same 15 clubs represented at the pointy end every year. And much of that dictated by the QF and semi final draw.

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      It'll get worse next year. As per usual the formal change is designed for the increased wealth and protection of the uber elite.

      Still not as bad as Super Rugby though

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        It'll get worse next year. As per usual the formal change is designed for the increased wealth and protection of the uber elite.

        Still not as bad as Super Rugby though

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        @dogmeat yeah...didn't want to do a comparison with Super rugby...seemed like a cheap shot

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          In both of the last 2 seasons, the quarter-final has put the best 4 teams on the same side of the draw - meaning finals for Inter and Dortmund and Real Madrid/Man City knocking each other out. As DM says, they are changing it to make sure that the top teams get through wherever possible.

          If you finish 9th to 24th in the 36 team league(!) and make it to the final, you will have played 17 games instead of the current 13 games.

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            I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

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              @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

              I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

              Is he a Kiwi or an Aussie? Either way, unfortunate for the Phoenix because he was great this year. Nice piece of business though, and great achievement for the player

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                Alex Paulsen is from Auckland.

                He also can't be loaned back to an A-League club as they changed the rules a few years ago when Melbourne City exploited that loophole.

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                  I was concerned when Ollie Sail left, but Paulsen was a big upgrade as it turned out

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Alex Paulsen is from Auckland.

                    He also can't be loaned back to an A-League club as they changed the rules a few years ago when Melbourne City exploited that loophole.

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                    African Monkey
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                    @Bovidae So off to Hibs then haha.

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

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                      @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

                      I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

                      we had Nik Tzanev at wimbledon until a couple of weeks ago, use to sponsor his kit, hopefully he'll get a new gig soon

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                        Marko Stamenić to Coventry from Red Star Belgrade - although his Wikipedia has been hacked by rival fans I suspect.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Alex Paulsen is from Auckland.

                          He also can't be loaned back to an A-League club as they changed the rules a few years ago when Melbourne City exploited that loophole.

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                          bayimports
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                          @Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:

                          Alex Paulsen is from Auckland.

                          He also can't be loaned back to an A-League club as they changed the rules a few years ago when Melbourne City exploited that loophole.

                          no, but he can be loaned to Hibs, Lorient of which he also owns.

                          Top squad do need a new goalie as Radu won't be extended so there is still a good chance he stays in Bournemouth

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                            https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/first-team/cherries-complete-signing-of-goalkeeper-paulsen/

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

                              I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

                              Is he a Kiwi or an Aussie? Either way, unfortunate for the Phoenix because he was great this year. Nice piece of business though, and great achievement for the player

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                              @canefan said in EPL 2023/2024:

                              @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

                              I see a kiwi has been snapped up by Bournemouth. Fair play to the lad. I think it’s just him and Chris wood.

                              Is he a Kiwi or an Aussie? Either way, unfortunate for the Phoenix because he was great this year. Nice piece of business though, and great achievement for the player

                              As much as Auckland might be viewed differently to the rest of NZ I wouldn’t stoop so low as to class it as Australian…

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                In reason #48 of "why do people care about Football at the very top" Real Madrid have just won the Champions League for about the 15th time in 18 years

                                And promptly signed Kylian Mbappe

                                I really don't know why everyone didn't just let these behemoth clubs (and Spurs) fuck off and play in their own sandpit.

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                                #690

                                @mariner4life said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                I really don't know why everyone didn't just let these behemoth clubs (and Spurs) fuck off and play in their own sandpit.

                                You may just get your wish

                                Things are about to get rowdy

                                City are challenging the Premier League's Associated Party Transaction rules (APT) claiming they are unlawful. A private arbitration hearing is scheduled to begin next week.
                                
                                City have accused the Premier League of "discrimination against Gulf ownership" and are also suing for damages, according to a report first published by The Times. City have been owned by the Abu Dhabi United Group since 2008.
                                

                                https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/40276465/man-city-sue-premier-league-lawsuit-commercial-rules

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                                  @mariner4life said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                  I really don't know why everyone didn't just let these behemoth clubs (and Spurs) fuck off and play in their own sandpit.

                                  You may just get your wish

                                  Things are about to get rowdy

                                  City are challenging the Premier League's Associated Party Transaction rules (APT) claiming they are unlawful. A private arbitration hearing is scheduled to begin next week.
                                  
                                  City have accused the Premier League of "discrimination against Gulf ownership" and are also suing for damages, according to a report first published by The Times. City have been owned by the Abu Dhabi United Group since 2008.
                                  

                                  https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/40276465/man-city-sue-premier-league-lawsuit-commercial-rules

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                                  @KiwiMurph City's argument is pretty straight forwards. They claim they haven't done anything wrong and rules have been moved to suggest they did.

                                  Without knowing the real truth, I'd say that if they have a clear case / argument, then they could well win.

                                  I'm probably alone on this, but given that the EPL is one of the countries largest cash cows and global draws, I'd personally be about protecting it rather than trying to smash it.

                                  Yeah, it ain't great that City have dominated, but it's not like it's for 50 years. Liverpool, Man U have had similar eras in that timeframe.

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                                    @KiwiMurph City's argument is pretty straight forwards. They claim they haven't done anything wrong and rules have been moved to suggest they did.

                                    Without knowing the real truth, I'd say that if they have a clear case / argument, then they could well win.

                                    I'm probably alone on this, but given that the EPL is one of the countries largest cash cows and global draws, I'd personally be about protecting it rather than trying to smash it.

                                    Yeah, it ain't great that City have dominated, but it's not like it's for 50 years. Liverpool, Man U have had similar eras in that timeframe.

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                                    @MajorRage

                                    This action is seperate from the 115 charges. They want to change the anti competitive rules in place around 3rd part sponsorship.

                                    These rules were brought in when the Saudi PIF purchased NUFC.

                                    City want the rules changed so they can pay themselves more with bigger sponsorship deals that they recieve from themselves and not have to worry about ‘fair market value’.

                                    It is unlikely to succeed but a 2 week hearing has been scheduled which shows that they do have some kind of case around anti competitive law.

                                    They also want to change the majority rule voting system in the EPL, which they call the tyranny of majority, which is quite funny coming from an autocratic state

                                    It’s not enough that they want to pay themselves whatever they want from sponsorship but they also have fake companies being their global sponsors.

                                    https://offthepitch.com/a/exclusive-another-manchester-city-sponsor-seemingly-no-staff-no-active-products-and-being-run-out

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                                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                      It'll get worse next year. As per usual the formal change is designed for the increased wealth and protection of the uber elite.

                                      Still not as bad as Super Rugby though

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                                      @dogmeat

                                      The format change was to get more broadcast revenue wasn’t it?

                                      It’s a pretty crap format with another 4-5 games for each club.

                                      It is why The ESL was proposed a couple of years ago

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        @KiwiMurph City's argument is pretty straight forwards. They claim they haven't done anything wrong and rules have been moved to suggest they did.

                                        Without knowing the real truth, I'd say that if they have a clear case / argument, then they could well win.

                                        I'm probably alone on this, but given that the EPL is one of the countries largest cash cows and global draws, I'd personally be about protecting it rather than trying to smash it.

                                        Yeah, it ain't great that City have dominated, but it's not like it's for 50 years. Liverpool, Man U have had similar eras in that timeframe.

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                                        @MajorRage said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                        Yeah, it ain't great that City have dominated, but it's not like it's for 50 years. Liverpool, Man U have had similar eras in that timeframe.

                                        Liverpool and Man U didn't try and change the rules so that the Forests and Villa's couldn't crash their party though. Which is precisely what City are trying to do.

                                        They don't want Newcastle being able to do what they themselves did. They'd been in Tier 3 less than a decade before the Abu Dhabi money rolled in. They then bought a new team and ultimately the world's best Manager. Following the route taken by Chelsea a few years earlier.

                                        Now they want to ensure no one else can do the same.

                                        As a Fulham supporter I don't have skin in the game. Mid table mediocrity is just fine by me. For Fulham fans the joy comes from the occasional upset against the big boys and ironically being inept enough to drop points to Sheffield. The sheer stupidity of it all is what courses through our veins.

                                        However, if I was a supporter of a bigger club with big aspirations like Newcastle (not West Ham they're just a middling club with delusions of grandeur) then I'd be livid.

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                                          If anyone fancies a shot at my all encompassing Euros predicting comp, drop me a message with an email address and I'll send it through. Huge football brain such as @dogmeat @Hurrycanes & @dK have already entered so you're unlikely to finish last.

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