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  • BonesB Bones

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @taniwharugby Not a great look for NZ Rugby to have the ABs captain immediately bugger off for Super Rugby.

    2026 I reckon.

    Yeah either way, not the AB captain.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @taniwharugby Not a great look for NZ Rugby to have the ABs captain immediately bugger off for Super Rugby.

    2026 I reckon.

    Yeah either way, not the AB captain.

    Don’t bet on it just yet.

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    • M Machpants

      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I dont think it would be out of line to tell those in the running that theyre looking for a higher level of commitment, they want the AB captain fronting up for super rugby...leading the sport rather than just match day

      I don't think Razor gives a shit if he's the best person for the job. Also sabbatical clause does not equal going, McCaw had one

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      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I dont think it would be out of line to tell those in the running that theyre looking for a higher level of commitment, they want the AB captain fronting up for super rugby...leading the sport rather than just match day

      I don't think Razor gives a shit if he's the best person for the job. Also sabbatical clause does not equal going, McCaw had one

      i think its of note Mccaw had been AB captain about 6 years before taking a sabbatical, so his leadership was effectively unquestioned and he only took one for rest and recuperation rather than still wanting to play rugby....just not in NZ

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @taniwharugby Not a great look for NZ Rugby to have the ABs captain immediately bugger off for Super Rugby.

        2026 I reckon.

        Yeah either way, not the AB captain.

        Don’t bet on it just yet.

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        Bones
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        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @taniwharugby Not a great look for NZ Rugby to have the ABs captain immediately bugger off for Super Rugby.

        2026 I reckon.

        Yeah either way, not the AB captain.

        Don’t bet on it just yet.

        Not even with C4Ls odds. If he is, he better enjoy that sabbatical after the next world cup.

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        • TimT Away
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          30 days until the first test.

          A few players are going to need to get in some club rugby in that time: A Savea, S Barrett, B Barrett, C Taylor.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I dont think it would be out of line to tell those in the running that theyre looking for a higher level of commitment, they want the AB captain fronting up for super rugby...leading the sport rather than just match day

            I don't think Razor gives a shit if he's the best person for the job. Also sabbatical clause does not equal going, McCaw had one

            i think its of note Mccaw had been AB captain about 6 years before taking a sabbatical, so his leadership was effectively unquestioned and he only took one for rest and recuperation rather than still wanting to play rugby....just not in NZ

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            taniwharugby
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            @Kiwiwomble his may be non-playing, the text quoted mentioned both.

            Anywho, storm in a teacup IMO.

            Let's see what the 1st squad naming brings.

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            • TimT Tim

              His new contract includes a sabbatical clause, whether it be of the non-playing variety or a playing stint elsewhere, such as Japan.

              Barrett said he could utilise the clause in his contract next year or in 2026. However, given injuries sidelined him for most of Super Rugby, and the Crusaders are coming off a rotten season, a break of any sort is hardly on his mind.

              Still hindered by a bulging disc in his back, had the Crusaders made the quarterfinals he would have been a 50/50 shot at playing this week.

              Now, he faces the prospect of potentially playing club rugby before the All Blacks kickoff their two-test series against England in Dunedin on July 6.

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              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              His new contract includes a sabbatical clause, whether it be of the non-playing variety or a playing stint elsewhere, such as Japan.

              Barrett said he could utilise the clause in his contract next year or in 2026. However, given injuries sidelined him for most of Super Rugby, and the Crusaders are coming off a rotten season, a break of any sort is hardly on his mind.

              Still hindered by a bulging disc in his back, had the Crusaders made the quarterfinals he would have been a 50/50 shot at playing this week.

              Now, he faces the prospect of potentially playing club rugby before the All Blacks kickoff their two-test series against England in Dunedin on July 6.

              Bulging disc in back sounds like surgery required.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

                  So you're saying the captaincy is his sister's vagina and Papalii is his brother?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

                    So you're saying the captaincy is his sister's vagina and Papalii is his brother?

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

                      So you're saying the captaincy is his sister's vagina and Papalii is his brother?

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

                      So you're saying the captaincy is his sister's vagina and Papalii is his brother?

                      “You’ll never have this”? Oh, how we laughed…

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

                        So you're saying the captaincy is his sister's vagina and Papalii is his brother?

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Kiwiwomble I'm ok with a player having a sabbatical. Be retarded to select that player as captain though.

                        So you're saying the captaincy is his sister's vagina and Papalii is his brother?

                        All Papalii has to do is break free from his cage and really smash that…..

                        ….captaincy

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          why would we think having two strong options for a position means we have to move people around, get them working together and pushing each other, give razor options, we might even have the depth to chose horses for courses...game plans specific to our Opposition

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          why would we think having two strong options for a position means we have to move people around, get them working together and pushing each other, give razor options, we might even have the depth to chose horses for courses...game plans specific to our Opposition

                          Just move one to fullback. The reverse of what hasn't worked before is sure to be a winning strategy.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            why would we think having two strong options for a position means we have to move people around, get them working together and pushing each other, give razor options, we might even have the depth to chose horses for courses...game plans specific to our Opposition

                            Just move one to fullback. The reverse of what hasn't worked before is sure to be a winning strategy.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            why would we think having two strong options for a position means we have to move people around, get them working together and pushing each other, give razor options, we might even have the depth to chose horses for courses...game plans specific to our Opposition

                            Just move one to fullback. The reverse of what hasn't worked before is sure to be a winning strategy.

                            Jordie Barrett at fullback? Like that would ever happen.

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Tim Confirms Akira is working hard. With the added bonus of more power.

                              Do you mean more power than others or playing more powerfully than before> as he played with some power before!

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Tim Confirms Akira is working hard. With the added bonus of more power.

                              Do you mean more power than others or playing more powerfully than before> as he played with some power before!

                              More power than others.

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                                Finau is the big hit merchant, but I am not sure he is as strong as Akira in close quarters (total guess)

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                                  Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??

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                                    It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

                                    But he has a much better candidate who seems to tick all the boxes.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/he-s-arguably-the-best-player-in-the-world-perenara-casts-vote-for-next-all-blacks-captain/ar-BB1nIhUG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=CNNDDB&cvid=72a3094cec8b4a0e967cfcbc1374f843&ei=24

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                                      • R ruggabee

                                        Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??

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                                        @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??

                                        Ethan Blackadder

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          why would we think having two strong options for a position means we have to move people around, get them working together and pushing each other, give razor options, we might even have the depth to chose horses for courses...game plans specific to our Opposition

                                          dur, because they are both awesome and therefore we just have to pick both of them

                                          we're having the same convo as the other day!

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                                          @mariner4life

                                          Proctor is a rookie. Very promising but a rookie nonetheless.

                                          There are 15 test matches this year.

                                          It doesn’t make sense that proctor plays all of those and he will get his chances if picked.

                                          If required Reiko could move to the wing if they bring procter on.

                                          The ABs have been at their best when we have got depth. Having 2 players that can play centre is a great thing for us. Procter has a lot to prove to become an international class centre

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