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  • BonesB Bones

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

    Please pick Scooter. Please pick Scooter. Just please.

    I'm a big Ardie fan, but his captaincy hasn't been great. I'd pick Scott, and I wouldn't care that he goes on a sabbatical next year. That's my prediction

    Hope Robertson makes his choice on a long-term basis and not just on sabbaticals. Wonder if he'll pick a permanent VC as well.

    Grace or Strange have many years ahead of them in black...

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

    Please pick Scooter. Please pick Scooter. Just please.

    I'm a big Ardie fan, but his captaincy hasn't been great. I'd pick Scott, and I wouldn't care that he goes on a sabbatical next year. That's my prediction

    Hope Robertson makes his choice on a long-term basis and not just on sabbaticals. Wonder if he'll pick a permanent VC as well.

    Grace or Strange have many years ahead of them in black...

    Grace I can live with

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      Duluth
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      #2809

      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/how-deep-into-the-barrel-must-scott-robertson-look-for-his-next-all-black-lock/

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/how-deep-into-the-barrel-must-scott-robertson-look-for-his-next-all-black-lock/

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        Chris B.
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        #2810

        @Duluth That's a reasonable assessment.

        That must be an old weight for Darry - looks a good 10kgs heavier to me. Assuming so, that's the dimensions I'd be looking for in a lock.

        In an interview last week, Scott Barrett said he'd have been 50-50 to play if there had been a game at the weekend, so that's promising for England.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Duluth That's a reasonable assessment.

          That must be an old weight for Darry - looks a good 10kgs heavier to me. Assuming so, that's the dimensions I'd be looking for in a lock.

          In an interview last week, Scott Barrett said he'd have been 50-50 to play if there had been a game at the weekend, so that's promising for England.

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          @Chris-B Darry pushing 118 kg taken 4 years tho

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Duluth That's a reasonable assessment.

            That must be an old weight for Darry - looks a good 10kgs heavier to me. Assuming so, that's the dimensions I'd be looking for in a lock.

            In an interview last week, Scott Barrett said he'd have been 50-50 to play if there had been a game at the weekend, so that's promising for England.

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            Duluth
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            #2812

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            That must be an old weight for Darry

            Yes. He's had the same weight listed on the Blues website since 2021

            He's clearly put on weight in the last few years

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              #2813

              I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

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                gt12
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                #2814

                @Bovidae

                NZRU saving money on player travel.

                Those consultants from Silver Lake earning their money already.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

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                  Frank
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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                  Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

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                  • F Frank

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                    Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

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                    Victor Meldrew
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                    #2816

                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                    Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, McCleod, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

                    No Ethan Blackadder? Must be injured again...

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                      Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, McCleod, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

                      No Ethan Blackadder? Must be injured again...

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                      #2817

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                      Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, McCleod, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

                      No Ethan Blackadder? Must be injured again...

                      Knew I forgot someone - amended above

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                      • F Frank

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                        Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

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                        Victor Meldrew
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                        #2818

                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        "Blackadder McCleod"

                        Great name for a love-child.... ๐Ÿ™‚

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @Bovidae

                          NZRU saving money on player travel.

                          Those consultants from Silver Lake earning their money already.

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                          Bovidae
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                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Bovidae

                          NZRU saving money on player travel.

                          I didn't want to state the obvious. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            "Blackadder McCleod"

                            Great name for a love-child.... ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            "Blackadder McCleod"

                            Great name for a love-child.... ๐Ÿ™‚

                            Better than Strange Grace or Lio-Willie Williams?

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                            • F Frank

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                              Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

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                              MN5
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                              #2821

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                              Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.๐Ÿ‘

                              Theyโ€™ve already booked an Uber from Christchurch airport to grab George Bridge too

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Bovidae

                                NZRU saving money on player travel.

                                I didn't want to state the obvious. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                gt12
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                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Bovidae

                                NZRU saving money on player travel.

                                I didn't want to state the obvious. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                Honestly, apart from the fact that Strange is now basically a certainty, my feeling is that this likely indicates Barrett or Taylor announced as captain.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Duluth That's a reasonable assessment.

                                  That must be an old weight for Darry - looks a good 10kgs heavier to me. Assuming so, that's the dimensions I'd be looking for in a lock.

                                  In an interview last week, Scott Barrett said he'd have been 50-50 to play if there had been a game at the weekend, so that's promising for England.

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                                  DaGrubster
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                                  @Chris-B

                                  I think this shows that we have a short term experience problem at lock which should be turned into a position of strength and depth within 18 months.

                                  There is plenty of talent

                                  Barrett is a world class lock so big โœ… for one of the 3 locking roles in a match day 23.

                                  Vaiโ€™l has been a leader since high school (head boy at school) so Thrusting Vaiโ€™i into a senior role could be the making of him. His newfound seniority at the chiefs have seen him go up a level with his lineout work amongst the best in the comp.

                                  Tuipolotu will be a valuable resource for the next 2 seasons. Just a shame he is not fit for the England series but he has a valuable part to play.

                                  Out of the uncapped locks, there is talent but it needs to be tested at the highest level. Out of the 5 or 6 options listed, you would expect a couple of them to really take an opportunity handed to them and grow into international class players.

                                  We need some of these 2.03m/2.04m players to really step up as the lineout is shortish with the above 3 locks being under 2 metres.

                                  The good news is that the pack looks like it will be very good so that will make it easier to support and embed the young inexperienced locks into it.

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                                    @Chris-B

                                    I think this shows that we have a short term experience problem at lock which should be turned into a position of strength and depth within 18 months.

                                    There is plenty of talent

                                    Barrett is a world class lock so big โœ… for one of the 3 locking roles in a match day 23.

                                    Vaiโ€™l has been a leader since high school (head boy at school) so Thrusting Vaiโ€™i into a senior role could be the making of him. His newfound seniority at the chiefs have seen him go up a level with his lineout work amongst the best in the comp.

                                    Tuipolotu will be a valuable resource for the next 2 seasons. Just a shame he is not fit for the England series but he has a valuable part to play.

                                    Out of the uncapped locks, there is talent but it needs to be tested at the highest level. Out of the 5 or 6 options listed, you would expect a couple of them to really take an opportunity handed to them and grow into international class players.

                                    We need some of these 2.03m/2.04m players to really step up as the lineout is shortish with the above 3 locks being under 2 metres.

                                    The good news is that the pack looks like it will be very good so that will make it easier to support and embed the young inexperienced locks into it.

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                                    Chris B.
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                                    @DaGrubster Yeah - I agree.

                                    It's very unfortunate that Barrett, Tuipolotu and Lord are all injured right now - because ideally we'd have those three and Vaa'i in the squad for this year, with several other young and tall guys bubbling under. If all of Lord, Darry and Holland can live up to their promise, we'd have quite an arsenal of 2+ metre locks.

                                    All going well we'll at least have Barrett and Vaa'i available for England.

                                    It will be pretty concerning if we don't have Scott available.

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                                    • G george33

                                      Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

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                                      Frank
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                                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

                                      My source tells me he's 50-50

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                                      • F Frank

                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

                                        My source tells me he's 50-50

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                                        george33
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                                        @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

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                                        • F Frank

                                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

                                          My source tells me he's 50-50

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                                          @Frank well that's good / bad news

                                          delete as appropriate

                                          Nice to have people in the know sharing.

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