Grumpy Old Man
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Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
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@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
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I have found that, no matter how much I prep, really it comes down to whoever is running it. Good facilitators make for good meetings (if, indeed, there is such a thing) not pre-reading. And i say this as someone who spends far, far too much time in them.
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@mariner4life I like to involve everyone, limits my input
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@nzzp said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
Death by powerpoint slides. Nothing better than some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read for yourself at the same time. Truly inspires confidence the presenter knows their subject matter.
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@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
I have found that, no matter how much I prep, really it comes down to whoever is running it. Good facilitators make for good meetings (if, indeed, there is such a thing) not pre-reading. And i say this as someone who spends far, far too much time in them.
I often find just as important as a pre read is an unofficial alignment chat somewhere. It does mean often more work, but more often than not, it helps get decisions made when really needed.
As for reading documentation. I now use co-pilot, so I just throw what i am have meant to have read in there and ask it to summarise for me.
Also meeting minutes are now a thing of the past (not 100% accurate, but 80% mostly done) without me having to get grumpy by thinking of the extra admin I still have to do -
@antipodean said in Grumpy Old Man:
@nzzp said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
Death by powerpoint slides. Nothing better than some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read for yourself at the same time. Truly inspires confidence the presenter knows their subject matter.
And you know in 30 seconds that the next hour is going to feel like 10. I hate it. At least online I can tune out
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well, if one wants to be an international man of mystery...
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@dogmeat Brian is great
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Our Vietnam Country Manager moved his office to a beach bar during lockdown - said it was impossible to work at home because of noise, so he moved to a bar with a disco out back. Viet girls ensured he always had a fresh beer.
If I know the meeting is not going to need input I mute and take it at my local. Alcohol definitely helps
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Just on that documentation discussion...
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does my fucking head in about recent generations (real GOM areas here)
No fucking curiosity, no fucking self learning, a complete and utter reliance on being trained, and having a documented process. fluffybunny use some gumption!
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@antipodean said in Grumpy Old Man:
@nzzp said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
Death by powerpoint slides. Nothing better than some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read for yourself at the same time. Truly inspires confidence the presenter knows their subject matter.
Agree up to a point. But nothing makes a meeting more non-productive than having to explain or recap a situation to some fluffybunny who hasn't had the courtesy or professionalism to even skim-read a few slides of briefing materials.
Well, except fluffybunnies who arrive late or in the wrong place as they didn't bother to read the invite properly.
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@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
does my fucking head in about recent generations (real GOM areas here)
No fucking curiosity, no fucking self learning, a complete and utter reliance on being trained, and having a documented process. fluffybunny use some gumption!
In my experience, an undocumented process is the best way to fuck up things. Caveat: If you can't put the process on a sheet of paper, it's a shit process.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Grumpy Old Man:
@antipodean said in Grumpy Old Man:
@nzzp said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
Death by powerpoint slides. Nothing better than some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read for yourself at the same time. Truly inspires confidence the presenter knows their subject matter.
Agree up to a point. But nothing makes a meeting more non-productive than having to explain or recap a situation to some fluffybunny who hasn't had the courtesy or professionalism to even skim-read a few slides of briefing materials.
Use a Word document.
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@antipodean said in Grumpy Old Man:
some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read
Double up vote
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@booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:
@antipodean said in Grumpy Old Man:
some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can readDouble up vote
I'm going to keep upvoting any fluffybunny who quotes'n'agrees with this.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
does my fucking head in about recent generations (real GOM areas here)
No fucking curiosity, no fucking self learning, a complete and utter reliance on being trained, and having a documented process. fluffybunny use some gumption!
In my experience, an undocumented process is the best way to fuck up things. Caveat: If you can't put the process on a sheet of paper, it's a shit process.
The flip-side is... a generation of chumps who don't know how to think. So - when a new situation arises - which isn't addressed by the documentation - hands-in-the-air, panic, "you didn't tell us how to deal with the rope breaking!" bullshit.
I get fucking furious about my own tech company not documenting how certain features actually work. Cause that's what documentation should be for.
But actively fight against documenting "how to work through a situation" - because that's what skills/experience are for... and the more situations you document - the less likely you are to get the right result when an unexpected (and undocumented) situation arises.
Fuck SOPs. I'm on Team-Thinking.
