Grumpy Old Man
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@booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Windows97 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:
fluffybunnies that demand things are documented time and again then come back to you time and again with "issues" that are covered exhaustively in the documentation.
Or even worse - when you compile training documentation and people don't even read it and then decry a lack of documentation.
I was doing training and a lovable chap said"Yes this tells us how to do this in the system, but where is the documentation on decision making?"
To which I replied "It's on page's 16-24 in the training document I attached to this meeting invite".
And then skewered him home with "Did you read this document before this training session?"
It made me feel angry and quite pleased with myself at the same time...
Of course the guy then spent the rest of the meeting trying to nit-pick anything he could find to try and get his credibility back - admirable.
Actually this makes me Grumpy. Who has time to read 16, let alone 24 pages of training manual before a course? We've got work to do. Just answer the man's reasonable question.
You're the guy who turned up after preseason and expected to start aren't you...
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@booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Windows97 said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:
fluffybunnies that demand things are documented time and again then come back to you time and again with "issues" that are covered exhaustively in the documentation.
Or even worse - when you compile training documentation and people don't even read it and then decry a lack of documentation.
I was doing training and a lovable chap said"Yes this tells us how to do this in the system, but where is the documentation on decision making?"
To which I replied "It's on page's 16-24 in the training document I attached to this meeting invite".
And then skewered him home with "Did you read this document before this training session?"
It made me feel angry and quite pleased with myself at the same time...
Of course the guy then spent the rest of the meeting trying to nit-pick anything he could find to try and get his credibility back - admirable.
Actually this makes me Grumpy. Who has time to read 16, let alone 24 pages of training manual before a course? We've got work to do. Just answer the man's reasonable question.
The answers to his exact question were in the document? All he had to do was read it...
Generally if you don't know how to do something and someone gives you a guide with a follow up meeting to ask any questions about the guide you would expect them to read the guide - to avoid making a fool of themselves.
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@Windows97 just save time and trouble by making a chat interface, use a LLM and point it to where your documentation is. Then they can ask at their leisure and not bother anyone else.
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@Windows97 The forever conflict between a User Manual which propellor heads love and a User Guide which is what the idiot in the office wants.
Too much detail and the idiot switches off. They don't want to know how it works just that it works. Sprinkle the pixie dist please.
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I can totally see how managers are happy using LLM
"The paper by Professors Brent Mittelstadt, Chris Russell and Sandra Wachter has been published in Nature Human Behaviour. It explains, ‘LLMs are designed to produce helpful and convincing responses without any overriding guarantees regarding their accuracy or alignment with fact.’ "
Large Language Models pose risk to science with false answers, says
Large Language Models (LLMs) pose a direct threat to science, because of so-called ‘hallucinations’ (untruthful responses), and should be restricted to protect scientific truth, says a new paper
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@nostrildamus said in Grumpy Old Man:
LLMs are designed to produce helpful and convincing responses without any overriding guarantees regarding their accuracy or alignment with fact.
today i learned i am an LLM
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@nostrildamus the irony being the amount of "peer reviewed" papers published which aren't fit for wiping an arse with.
Any decent model fit for specific purpose holds the trusted data in its own storage blob.
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@dogmeat said in Grumpy Old Man:
@Windows97 The forever conflict between a User Manual which propellor heads love and a User Guide which is what the idiot in the office wants.
Too much detail and the idiot switches off. They don't want to know how it works just that it works. Sprinkle the pixie dist please.
A colleague sent me no fewer than 11 docs yesterday to look at before three separate meetings today. I read half of one of them.
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Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
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@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
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I have found that, no matter how much I prep, really it comes down to whoever is running it. Good facilitators make for good meetings (if, indeed, there is such a thing) not pre-reading. And i say this as someone who spends far, far too much time in them.
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@mariner4life I like to involve everyone, limits my input
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@nzzp said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
Death by powerpoint slides. Nothing better than some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read for yourself at the same time. Truly inspires confidence the presenter knows their subject matter.
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@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
I have found that, no matter how much I prep, really it comes down to whoever is running it. Good facilitators make for good meetings (if, indeed, there is such a thing) not pre-reading. And i say this as someone who spends far, far too much time in them.
I often find just as important as a pre read is an unofficial alignment chat somewhere. It does mean often more work, but more often than not, it helps get decisions made when really needed.
As for reading documentation. I now use co-pilot, so I just throw what i am have meant to have read in there and ask it to summarise for me.
Also meeting minutes are now a thing of the past (not 100% accurate, but 80% mostly done) without me having to get grumpy by thinking of the extra admin I still have to do -
@antipodean said in Grumpy Old Man:
@nzzp said in Grumpy Old Man:
@mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:
Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds
prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.
so yeah, speccie nerds eh
Death by powerpoint slides. Nothing better than some halfwit who puts 100 words on a slide and then says verbatim what you can read for yourself at the same time. Truly inspires confidence the presenter knows their subject matter.
And you know in 30 seconds that the next hour is going to feel like 10. I hate it. At least online I can tune out
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well, if one wants to be an international man of mystery...
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@dogmeat Brian is great
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Our Vietnam Country Manager moved his office to a beach bar during lockdown - said it was impossible to work at home because of noise, so he moved to a bar with a disco out back. Viet girls ensured he always had a fresh beer.
If I know the meeting is not going to need input I mute and take it at my local. Alcohol definitely helps
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Just on that documentation discussion...
