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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to Dan54 on last edited by
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    @Dan54 can't upvote, but please accept supportive thoughts and wishes

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    @Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:

    fluffybunnies that demand things are documented time and again then come back to you time and again with "issues" that are covered exhaustively in the documentation.

    Or even worse - when you compile training documentation and people don't even read it and then decry a lack of documentation.

    I was doing training and a lovable chap said"Yes this tells us how to do this in the system, but where is the documentation on decision making?"

    To which I replied "It's on page's 16-24 in the training document I attached to this meeting invite".

    And then skewered him home with "Did you read this document before this training session?"

    It made me feel angry and quite pleased with myself at the same time...

    Of course the guy then spent the rest of the meeting trying to nit-pick anything he could find to try and get his credibility back - admirable.

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    replied to Windows97 on last edited by
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    @Windows97 that's exactly what I'm talking about...

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    @Dan54 said in Grumpy Old Man:

    Ok just to get it off chest. I had a growls about 5 weeks ago when my youngest sister passed away. Well a couple of days later wife's nephew who we have a bit to do with, woke up at night, had some kind of siezure, got rushed to hospital. He was put in an induced coma, but last Monday they had to switch off machines and he passed away. He had got some kind of virus that attcked brain, and they just couldn't isolate/treat it. Anyway he was only 35 for fucks sake with 3 young boys!! Where the fuck is the justice in this world???
    I will say on a positive side he lived in Shannon in the Horowhenua, and the memebers of the rugby club (where he coached a kid's team), school and community were and are incredibly supportive!!
    I am putting out a message to anyone I care about etc who are crook and dying--just f***en don't!!!

    FFS - that's shit man

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    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/tradies-told-take-15c-in-the-dollar-or-get-nothing/ar-BB1o2J3n?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=214e3422d50745dbbf2e5f78fe6e641b&ei=5

    Is blunt knife castration without anaesthetic legal?

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @Higgins If not, it should be!

    Oz put some effort into preventing that behaviour following the "bottom of the harbour" schemes of the 70s and 80s, specifically voidable transactions.

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    @Windows97 said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:

    fluffybunnies that demand things are documented time and again then come back to you time and again with "issues" that are covered exhaustively in the documentation.

    Or even worse - when you compile training documentation and people don't even read it and then decry a lack of documentation.

    I was doing training and a lovable chap said"Yes this tells us how to do this in the system, but where is the documentation on decision making?"

    To which I replied "It's on page's 16-24 in the training document I attached to this meeting invite".

    And then skewered him home with "Did you read this document before this training session?"

    It made me feel angry and quite pleased with myself at the same time...

    Of course the guy then spent the rest of the meeting trying to nit-pick anything he could find to try and get his credibility back - admirable.

    Actually this makes me Grumpy. Who has time to read 16, let alone 24 pages of training manual before a course? We've got work to do. Just answer the man's reasonable question.

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  • KruseK Offline
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    Anybody who wants/needs "documentation on decision making" - isn't doing any useful work.

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  • BonesB Online
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    @Higgins said in Grumpy Old Man:

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/tradies-told-take-15c-in-the-dollar-or-get-nothing/ar-BB1o2J3n?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=214e3422d50745dbbf2e5f78fe6e641b&ei=5

    Is blunt knife castration without anaesthetic legal?

    Plus, what the fuck is Microsoft start, I'm not signing in to that or getting the app.

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  • BonesB Online
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    @booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Windows97 said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:

    fluffybunnies that demand things are documented time and again then come back to you time and again with "issues" that are covered exhaustively in the documentation.

    Or even worse - when you compile training documentation and people don't even read it and then decry a lack of documentation.

    I was doing training and a lovable chap said"Yes this tells us how to do this in the system, but where is the documentation on decision making?"

    To which I replied "It's on page's 16-24 in the training document I attached to this meeting invite".

    And then skewered him home with "Did you read this document before this training session?"

    It made me feel angry and quite pleased with myself at the same time...

    Of course the guy then spent the rest of the meeting trying to nit-pick anything he could find to try and get his credibility back - admirable.

    Actually this makes me Grumpy. Who has time to read 16, let alone 24 pages of training manual before a course? We've got work to do. Just answer the man's reasonable question.

    You're the guy who turned up after preseason and expected to start aren't you...

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  • Windows97W Offline
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    @booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Windows97 said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Bones said in Grumpy Old Man:

    fluffybunnies that demand things are documented time and again then come back to you time and again with "issues" that are covered exhaustively in the documentation.

    Or even worse - when you compile training documentation and people don't even read it and then decry a lack of documentation.

    I was doing training and a lovable chap said"Yes this tells us how to do this in the system, but where is the documentation on decision making?"

    To which I replied "It's on page's 16-24 in the training document I attached to this meeting invite".

    And then skewered him home with "Did you read this document before this training session?"

    It made me feel angry and quite pleased with myself at the same time...

    Of course the guy then spent the rest of the meeting trying to nit-pick anything he could find to try and get his credibility back - admirable.

    Actually this makes me Grumpy. Who has time to read 16, let alone 24 pages of training manual before a course? We've got work to do. Just answer the man's reasonable question.

    The answers to his exact question were in the document? All he had to do was read it...

    Generally if you don't know how to do something and someone gives you a guide with a follow up meeting to ask any questions about the guide you would expect them to read the guide - to avoid making a fool of themselves.

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    replied to Windows97 on last edited by
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    @Windows97 just save time and trouble by making a chat interface, use a LLM and point it to where your documentation is. Then they can ask at their leisure and not bother anyone else.

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    replied to Windows97 on last edited by
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    @Windows97 The forever conflict between a User Manual which propellor heads love and a User Guide which is what the idiot in the office wants.

    Too much detail and the idiot switches off. They don't want to know how it works just that it works. Sprinkle the pixie dist please.

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    I can totally see how managers are happy using LLM

    Large Language Models pose risk to science with false answers, says

    Large Language Models pose risk to science with false answers, says

    Large Language Models (LLMs) pose a direct threat to science, because of so-called ‘hallucinations’ (untruthful responses),  and should be restricted to protect scientific truth, says a new paper

    "The paper by Professors Brent Mittelstadt, Chris Russell and Sandra Wachter has been published in Nature Human Behaviour. It explains, ‘LLMs are designed to produce helpful and convincing responses without any overriding guarantees regarding their accuracy or alignment with fact.’ "

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
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    @nostrildamus said in Grumpy Old Man:

    LLMs are designed to produce helpful and convincing responses without any overriding guarantees regarding their accuracy or alignment with fact.

    today i learned i am an LLM

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
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    @nostrildamus the irony being the amount of "peer reviewed" papers published which aren't fit for wiping an arse with.

    Any decent model fit for specific purpose holds the trusted data in its own storage blob.

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  • SmudgeS Offline
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    replied to dogmeat on last edited by Smudge
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    @dogmeat said in Grumpy Old Man:

    @Windows97 The forever conflict between a User Manual which propellor heads love and a User Guide which is what the idiot in the office wants.

    Too much detail and the idiot switches off. They don't want to know how it works just that it works. Sprinkle the pixie dist please.

    A colleague sent me no fewer than 11 docs yesterday to look at before three separate meetings today. I read half of one of them.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Grumpy Old Man:

    Prepping for meetings is for speccie nerds

    prepping for meetings stops interminable powerpoint slides that are being read out and lets good discussions happen.

    so yeah, speccie nerds eh

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    I have found that, no matter how much I prep, really it comes down to whoever is running it. Good facilitators make for good meetings (if, indeed, there is such a thing) not pre-reading. And i say this as someone who spends far, far too much time in them.

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