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Name Your AB Team

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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    @sparky
    Yeah it wasn't so long ago we couldn't find a prop, flanker, mid field.

    Having Savea , Sotutu and Sititi competing for 8 is ludicrous.
    Roigard-DMac would give Dupont-Ntamack a good run for your money.

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    @BerniesCorner said in Name Your AB Team:

    Having Savea , Sotutu and Sititi competing for 8 is ludicrous.

    No. It's fucking great.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

      @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

      1 De Groot
      2 Taylor
      3 Lomax
      4 Vai’i
      5 Barrett S
      6 Finau
      7 Papalii
      8 Savea
      9 Ratima
      10 McKenzie
      11 Telea
      12 Barrett J
      13 Ioane
      14 Reece
      15 Barrett B

      16 Aumua
      17 Newell
      18 Williams
      19 a lock who I know nothing about
      20 Jacobsen
      21 Proctor
      22 Clarke
      23 Love

      McKenzie covering halfback? There's that razor innovation.

      Yeah we’ll go with that.

      Anyone but that Scots ranga.

      Can see TJP starting in 1st Test on experience. Ratima hopefully starts 2nd Test. Havili over Love on basis Robertson knows him and experience.

      Agree on Christie. Time to roll the dice at 9.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

      Can see TJP starting in 1st Test on experience.

      Can see him putting in terrible kicks, mouthing off at the ref instead of clearing the ball, and just stinking up the place. He's shit at test level, and has had some really bad games for the Hurricanes recently. He was awful against the Chiefs. Missed a lot of tackles, and was very slow.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Victor-Meldrew tough to figure out the logic on selecting a guy who's inexperienced at playing recently, let alone playing fullback at any level...over a guy who shines there right now.

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        @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Victor-Meldrew tough to figure out the logic on selecting a guy who's inexperienced at playing recently, let alone playing fullback at any level...over a guy who shines there right now.

        Not what I want. What I think will happen - at least for first few Tests

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        • TimT Tim

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

          Can see TJP starting in 1st Test on experience.

          Can see him putting in terrible kicks, mouthing off at the ref instead of clearing the ball, and just stinking up the place. He's shit at test level, and has had some really bad games for the Hurricanes recently. He was awful against the Chiefs. Missed a lot of tackles, and was very slow.

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          @Tim said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

          Can see TJP starting in 1st Test on experience.

          Can see him putting in terrible kicks, mouthing off at the ref instead of clearing the ball, and just stinking up the place. He's shit at test level, and has had some really bad games for the Hurricanes recently. He was awful against the Chiefs. Missed a lot of tackles, and was very slow.

          Would like the dice rolled, but think caution will be the name of the game for Robertson's 1st few games. Be pissed off it we haven't settled the 9 slots by the RC.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Victor-Meldrew tough to figure out the logic on selecting a guy who's inexperienced at playing recently, let alone playing fullback at any level...over a guy who shines there right now.

            Not what I want. What I think will happen - at least for first few Tests

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Victor-Meldrew tough to figure out the logic on selecting a guy who's inexperienced at playing recently, let alone playing fullback at any level...over a guy who shines there right now.

            Not what I want. What I think will happen - at least for first few Tests

            Yeah and I'm saying that would be even more bizarre logic than the last coach. Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

            Yeah nah.

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              De groot
              Aumua
              Lomax
              Barrett
              Vai’i
              Finau
              Savea
              Sotutu
              Ratima
              McKenzie
              Clarke
              Barrett
              Ioane
              Reece
              Love

              Replacements
              Numia
              Taylor
              Newell
              Darry
              Popoali’i
              Perenara
              Plummer
              Telea

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Victor-Meldrew tough to figure out the logic on selecting a guy who's inexperienced at playing recently, let alone playing fullback at any level...over a guy who shines there right now.

                Not what I want. What I think will happen - at least for first few Tests

                Yeah and I'm saying that would be even more bizarre logic than the last coach. Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                Yeah nah.

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                @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                  Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                  Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

                  Still can't see the logic in selecting a 2nd five to cover fullback.

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                    And that's an out of form 2nd five, covering a position he hasn't played in years, versus a very in form fullback.

                    If he wants experience then it'd be ALB, at least.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                      Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

                      Still can't see the logic in selecting a 2nd five to cover fullback.

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                      @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                      Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

                      Still can't see the logic in selecting a 2nd five to cover fullback.

                      Think Robertson may see DH as a utility back who can cover 10, 12 & 15 at a pinch. He's clearly in his headlights for the squad with his playing at 10 in SR.

                      If he wants experience then it'd be ALB, at least.

                      Agreed.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                        Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

                        Still can't see the logic in selecting a 2nd five to cover fullback.

                        Think Robertson may see DH as a utility back who can cover 10, 12 & 15 at a pinch. He's clearly in his headlights for the squad with his playing at 10 in SR.

                        If he wants experience then it'd be ALB, at least.

                        Agreed.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Havili has hardly played this season, so he's going to select him in a position I can't recall him playing in years at SR level, let alone test level?

                        Are we at cross-purposes? I'm suggesting DH might be at 23 over Love.

                        Still can't see the logic in selecting a 2nd five to cover fullback.

                        Think Robertson may see DH as a utility back who can cover 10, 12 & 15 at a pinch. He's clearly in his headlights for the squad with his playing at 10 in SR.

                        If he wants experience then it'd be ALB, at least.

                        Agreed.

                        I would think he'd see Jordie as at least equally capable. If he doesn't, then he's a stubborn moron. Sounds familiar...

                        Oh wait I see where this is going...

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                          BA Baracus.

                          Oh wait. The AB team.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @sparky Wishful thinking isn't rare.

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                            @Tim said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @sparky Wishful thinking isn't rare.

                            Whitelock is playing for the Barbarians on 24th June earning some extra coin.

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                              Jesus, I find it disturbing the number of people picking Perenara in the side. It would be a terrible backward looking selection. He's just been comprehensively outplayed by Ratima in a knock-out game: a performance which would have looked far worse if he had been rightly carded during the match.
                              Do we really have to be so conservative? Haven't we just seen with Roigard that the correct approach is to pick the guy who plays better? Who happens to also be the guy with a ready-made combination with the presumptive 10?

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                                Jesus, I find it disturbing the number of people picking Perenara in the side. It would be a terrible backward looking selection. He's just been comprehensively outplayed by Ratima in a knock-out game: a performance which would have looked far worse if he had been rightly carded during the match.
                                Do we really have to be so conservative? Haven't we just seen with Roigard that the correct approach is to pick the guy who plays better? Who happens to also be the guy with a ready-made combination with the presumptive 10?

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                                @reprobate said in Name Your AB Team:

                                Jesus, I find it disturbing the number of people picking Perenara in the side. It would be a terrible backward looking selection. He's just been comprehensively outplayed by Ratima in a knock-out game: a performance which would have looked far worse if he had been rightly carded during the match.
                                Do we really have to be so conservative? Haven't we just seen with Roigard that the correct approach is to pick the guy who plays better? Who happens to also be the guy with a ready-made combination with the presumptive 10?

                                Just reiterating my comment from a month ago...

                                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                If Perenara is selected to start at 9, there's zero doubt in my mind that everyone on here will be complaining endlessly when he's inevitably giving the backline terrible service in July.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  A possible scenario that I hope doesn't play-out:

                                  Robertson's squad to have some absolute shockers in it, and the team loses the first test after a red card. If he loses at Eden Park then it's all out war to have him removed.

                                  Imagine this pack running out onto Forsyth Barr Stadium:

                                  1 Bower
                                  2 Taylor
                                  3 Newell
                                  4 Barrett
                                  5 Strange
                                  6 Grace
                                  7 Blackadder
                                  8 Savea

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                                  @Tim id have Lio Willie at 8…😎

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                                  • StagS Stag

                                    @Tim id have Lio Willie at 8…😎

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                                    De Groot
                                    Taylor
                                    Newell
                                    SBarrett
                                    Vai’i
                                    Blackadder
                                    Papali’i
                                    Savea
                                    Ratima
                                    DMac
                                    Clarke
                                    JBarrett
                                    Ioane
                                    Tele'a
                                    BBarrett

                                    Aumua
                                    Williams
                                    Lomax
                                    Darry
                                    Finau
                                    Christie
                                    ALB
                                    Love

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                                      De Groot
                                      Taylor
                                      Newell
                                      SBarrett
                                      Vai’i
                                      Blackadder
                                      Papali’i
                                      Savea
                                      Ratima
                                      DMac
                                      Clarke
                                      JBarrett
                                      Ioane
                                      Tele'a
                                      BBarrett

                                      Aumua
                                      Williams
                                      Lomax
                                      Darry
                                      Finau
                                      Christie
                                      ALB
                                      Love

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                                      @Chris-B said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Blackadder
                                      Papali’i
                                      Savea

                                      alt text

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Chris-B said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Blackadder
                                        Papali’i
                                        Savea

                                        alt text

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                                        @mariner4life I won't mind too much if it goes the other way - and by the end of the season it may. But, one of those guys went to the RWC and the other didn't and Jason Ryan helped pick both those teams.

                                        More sneaky is that I'm picking Newell to start and Lomax on the bench. Tyrel looked short of a gallop to me on Saturday, while Fletch has smashed everyone in a vain effort.

                                        As regards hobbits - I'm not unhappy that Taylor and Aumua are in cotton wool this weekend! 🙂

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @BerniesCorner Weird to think that at least one of Sotutu or Sititi won't be in the 23.

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                                          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @BerniesCorner Weird to think that at least one of Sotutu or Sititi won't be in the 23.

                                          Unless you're planning on dropping Ardie, one of them (probably Sititi) won't even make the squad.

                                          If they only pick five loosies, it's quite likely Sotutu doesn't make it either, because Ardie is locked in and Hoskins doesn't have the same utility value as others.

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