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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    On the midfield - last time I saw Dave Havili he was wandering off the field with what looked like a torn pectoral muscle and last time I saw Billy Proctor he looked like he had cracked ribs - so there could be a very open space there.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks bolters:

    On the midfield - last time I saw Dave Havili he was wandering off the field with what looked like a torn pectoral muscle and last time I saw Billy Proctor he looked like he had cracked ribs - so there could be a very open space there.

    Hopefully Billy didn't do any damage and it's just bruising.

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      i normally dont expect true Bolters for a home series, are they not more common for a touring squad that cant replace people so easily?

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        tyronne thompson carnt work out how he is rated behind slater

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        @ploughboy said in All Blacks bolters:

        tyronne thompson carnt work out how he is rated behind slater

        Isn't he off to league? That probably didn't help his chances.

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          Tavayavanawai wouldn't look out of place, and would be a true bolter.

          Plenty of established talent to get past though

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            Tavayavanawai wouldn't look out of place, and would be a true bolter.

            Plenty of established talent to get past though

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            @booboo said in All Blacks bolters:

            Tavayavanawai wouldn't look out of place, and would be a true bolter.

            Plenty of established talent to get past though

            Can't see that happening with all the other wing talent running around.

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            • boobooB booboo

              Tavayavanawai wouldn't look out of place, and would be a true bolter.

              Plenty of established talent to get past though

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              @booboo said in All Blacks bolters:

              Tavayavanawai wouldn't look out of place, and would be a true bolter.

              Plenty of established talent to get past though

              100% and if those in front of him were even slightly off their current pace then i think he cold make a push....but theyre not

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                Another bolter and probably big outside chance is Marcel Renata, but under Vern he's making some serious noise

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                  Another bolter and probably big outside chance is Marcel Renata, but under Vern he's making some serious noise

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                  @george33 said in All Blacks bolters:

                  Another bolter and probably big outside chance is Marcel Renata, but under Vern he's making some serious noise

                  Can't see that happening with the choices available.

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                    @george33 said in All Blacks bolters:

                    Another bolter and probably big outside chance is Marcel Renata, but under Vern he's making some serious noise

                    Can't see that happening with the choices available.

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                    @Canes4life probably not, maybe end year tour or injury

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                      Etene Nanai-Seturo could sneak in. Sometimes these squads only have a couple of specialist wingers and another that can cover full back. I feel he is a better all round player than Stevenson.

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                        Can Narawa cover fullback?

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                          There's likely to be one bolter surely. And hopefully nota Crusader. Robertson needs to prove he's a Wayne Smith not a Robbie Deans

                          Canes have one who is a year too early. But if he can bulk up and find a team to get game time Viljoen has a Smith-like pass. Plus, a good running and kicking game. Courage defender but so small still.

                          I don't think either TJ or Christie are even close to being anything but a short-term selection. We need Roigard back without loss of form and one other VG option.

                          Plummer will likely make it but again only as a short-term backup option until something better comes along/

                          And Ricky is another who really isn't even close to test hooker level. Be interesting to see how Tyrone goes in the final.

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                            There's likely to be one bolter surely. And hopefully nota Crusader. Robertson needs to prove he's a Wayne Smith not a Robbie Deans

                            Canes have one who is a year too early. But if he can bulk up and find a team to get game time Viljoen has a Smith-like pass. Plus, a good running and kicking game. Courage defender but so small still.

                            I don't think either TJ or Christie are even close to being anything but a short-term selection. We need Roigard back without loss of form and one other VG option.

                            Plummer will likely make it but again only as a short-term backup option until something better comes along/

                            And Ricky is another who really isn't even close to test hooker level. Be interesting to see how Tyrone goes in the final.

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                            @Winger said in All Blacks bolters:

                            Plumber will likely make it but again only as a short-term backup option until something better comes along/

                            Can also unclog the toilets.

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                              Can Narawa cover fullback?

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks bolters:

                              Can Narawa cover fullback?

                              He's played there a little bit for both the Chiefs and BOP.

                              Speaking of fullbacks, it seems obvious that Jordan will be their preferred fullback (when fit) so that could factor into who is selected on Monday.

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                                Ruben Love looks like to coin a cliche - "a safe pair of hands" at fullback. He seems to be a good all-round player, but doesn't appear to have anywhere near the attacking capabilities of Jordan. I wonder if this needs further development.

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                                  Ruben Love looks like to coin a cliche - "a safe pair of hands" at fullback. He seems to be a good all-round player, but doesn't appear to have anywhere near the attacking capabilities of Jordan. I wonder if this needs further development.

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                                  @Frank said in All Blacks bolters:

                                  Ruben Love looks like to coin a cliche - "a safe pair of hands" at fullback. He seems to be a good all-round player, but doesn't appear to have anywhere near the attacking capabilities of Jordan. I wonder if this needs further development.

                                  Agree. But I have seen him do this for Wellington during 2022. But it's maybe an area where he needs more work.

                                  But TBH I like a safe pair of hands at FB. Moorby at FB was always trying to create stuff. But maybe Love is just a bit too much in the opposite direction

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                                    Ruben Love looks like to coin a cliche - "a safe pair of hands" at fullback. He seems to be a good all-round player, but doesn't appear to have anywhere near the attacking capabilities of Jordan. I wonder if this needs further development.

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                                    @Frank said in All Blacks bolters:

                                    Ruben Love looks like to coin a cliche - "a safe pair of hands" at fullback. He seems to be a good all-round player, but doesn't appear to have anywhere near the attacking capabilities of Jordan. I wonder if this needs further development.

                                    In what way doesn’t he have anywhere near the attacking capabilities? Hard to compare to Jordan as when he’s fit he’s one of the best 15’s in the world.

                                    I’d argue that he has the most attacking capabilities out of all the fullbacks in the country behind Will Jordan when you factor in his all round game. Yes he has a way to go, but we haven’t even seem him in an All Black environment yet and all Love has done is get better and better each season.

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                                      Cullen Grace.

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                                        Cullen Grace.

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                                        @sparky isn't the term bolter only for uncapped players?

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                                          @sparky isn't the term bolter only for uncapped players?

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                                          @Grooter Dunno. He has played for the ABs in a while and he's not been talked about much as potential AB selection, but I could easily see Ryan and Robertson going with him.

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