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  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

    @Bones Choat's solid, bur was disappointed with how he played against the Crusaders when given the chance when Papali'i was rested. His discipline was really bad that night and it did show how much we need Papali'i in that Blues side and the gap between the 2.

    Good SR player, but I don't think he'd ever come into AB consideration.

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks bolters:

    @Bones Choat's solid, bur was disappointed with how he played against the Crusaders when given the chance when Papali'i was rested. His discipline was really bad that night and it did show how much we need Papali'i in that Blues side and the gap between the 2.

    Good SR player, but I don't think he'd ever come into AB consideration.

    Yeah I'm going purely off his brilliant cameo in the semi.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @cgrant said in All Blacks bolters:

      Sititi ?

      He would be eh. Reckon they'll wanna bring him in later this year or next year so would be surprised.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks bolters:

      @cgrant said in All Blacks bolters:

      Sititi ?

      He would be eh. Reckon they'll wanna bring him in later this year or next year so would be surprised.

      I’d be surprised if he was in this initial squad given we have a number of excellent options and experienced test players still available.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        Cullen Grace.

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        @sparky said in All Blacks bolters:

        Cullen Grace.

        He might make a certain Crusaders supporter’s Eye Patch XV, but I’m not sure he’s done enough to demand selection. When you’re on the fringe which is what Grace is, you basically have to be playing at a consistently high level to make the selectors take notice.

        Certainly in the mix, but I count at least 5 or so other loose forwards that are probably in the same boat plus a further 3 loosies that I would say are dead certainties.

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        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

          @Bones Choat's solid, bur was disappointed with how he played against the Crusaders when given the chance when Papali'i was rested. His discipline was really bad that night and it did show how much we need Papali'i in that Blues side and the gap between the 2.

          Good SR player, but I don't think he'd ever come into AB consideration.

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          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks bolters:

          @Bones Choat's solid, bur was disappointed with how he played against the Crusaders when given the chance when Papali'i was rested. His discipline was really bad that night and it did show how much we need Papali'i in that Blues side and the gap between the 2.

          Good SR player, but I don't think he'd ever come into AB consideration.

          Wouldn’t be surprised if he played for England one day. England qualified by grandparent.. he’s better than some other kiwi loosies they’ve picked

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            @Bones @Duluth Yeah, he does more good than bad when he plays and is a very good player to have in the squad, I just personally have others ahead if him.

            And yeah, he's definitely good enough to play international rugby for someone, and yes, he would be far better than other guys they have picked from NZ, he just doesn't fit into the AB equation for me.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks bolters:

              @Bones Choat's solid, bur was disappointed with how he played against the Crusaders when given the chance when Papali'i was rested. His discipline was really bad that night and it did show how much we need Papali'i in that Blues side and the gap between the 2.

              Good SR player, but I don't think he'd ever come into AB consideration.

              Wouldn’t be surprised if he played for England one day. England qualified by grandparent.. he’s better than some other kiwi loosies they’ve picked

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              @Duluth said in All Blacks bolters:

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks bolters:

              @Bones Choat's solid, bur was disappointed with how he played against the Crusaders when given the chance when Papali'i was rested. His discipline was really bad that night and it did show how much we need Papali'i in that Blues side and the gap between the 2.

              Good SR player, but I don't think he'd ever come into AB consideration.

              Wouldn’t be surprised if he played for England one day. England qualified by grandparent.. he’s better than some other kiwi loosies they’ve picked

              cough cough Brad 'my hands have nipples' Shields

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                Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                Mitch Dunshea considering the lock shortage. Oli Haig... probably more likely for the end of year tour, but the ABs supposedly like him, and want to lock in his availability with England surely circling (and Australia lol).

                Depending on how confident they are in fullback options, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens may get a look in. I reckon because of his age he may have jumped Stevenson, so if they want two out and out 15s (rather than Barrett, Perofeta, Nanai-Seturo, Narawa etc.) they could potentially pick him alongside Love.

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                • frugbyF frugby

                  Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                  Mitch Dunshea considering the lock shortage. Oli Haig... probably more likely for the end of year tour, but the ABs supposedly like him, and want to lock in his availability with England surely circling (and Australia lol).

                  Depending on how confident they are in fullback options, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens may get a look in. I reckon because of his age he may have jumped Stevenson, so if they want two out and out 15s (rather than Barrett, Perofeta, Nanai-Seturo, Narawa etc.) they could potentially pick him alongside Love.

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                  @frugby said in All Blacks bolters:

                  Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                  Mitch Dunshea considering the lock shortage. Oli Haig... probably more likely for the end of year tour, but the ABs supposedly like him, and want to lock in his availability with England surely circling (and Australia lol).

                  Depending on how confident they are in fullback options, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens may get a look in. I reckon because of his age he may have jumped Stevenson, so if they want two out and out 15s (rather than Barrett, Perofeta, Nanai-Seturo, Narawa etc.) they could potentially pick him alongside Love.

                  https://media3.giphy.com/media/65ODCwM00NVmEyLsX3/200w.webp?cid=790b7611eoivz47f9ipk5b1pbgpzsgf8oqhbkbetzk8284c4&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.webp&ct=g

                  Great week.

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                    I don't see JRK close to being in the ABs. He is still to demonstrate that he can link with his support or create opportunities when running from deep, and can be suspect fielding high kicks.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @frugby said in All Blacks bolters:

                      Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                      Mitch Dunshea considering the lock shortage. Oli Haig... probably more likely for the end of year tour, but the ABs supposedly like him, and want to lock in his availability with England surely circling (and Australia lol).

                      Depending on how confident they are in fullback options, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens may get a look in. I reckon because of his age he may have jumped Stevenson, so if they want two out and out 15s (rather than Barrett, Perofeta, Nanai-Seturo, Narawa etc.) they could potentially pick him alongside Love.

                      https://media3.giphy.com/media/65ODCwM00NVmEyLsX3/200w.webp?cid=790b7611eoivz47f9ipk5b1pbgpzsgf8oqhbkbetzk8284c4&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.webp&ct=g

                      Great week.

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                      @gt12 if Razor was going for a RWC-esque squad with a thousand outside backs, then yes JRK might be in the bolter conversation. Might.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @frugby said in All Blacks bolters:

                        Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                        Mitch Dunshea considering the lock shortage. Oli Haig... probably more likely for the end of year tour, but the ABs supposedly like him, and want to lock in his availability with England surely circling (and Australia lol).

                        Depending on how confident they are in fullback options, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens may get a look in. I reckon because of his age he may have jumped Stevenson, so if they want two out and out 15s (rather than Barrett, Perofeta, Nanai-Seturo, Narawa etc.) they could potentially pick him alongside Love.

                        https://media3.giphy.com/media/65ODCwM00NVmEyLsX3/200w.webp?cid=790b7611eoivz47f9ipk5b1pbgpzsgf8oqhbkbetzk8284c4&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.webp&ct=g

                        Great week.

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                          @Canes4life probably not, maybe end year tour or injury

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                          @george33 said in All Blacks bolters:

                          @Canes4life probably not, maybe end year tour or injury

                          Probably third best starting TH of the NZ Superb franchises.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              I don't see JRK close to being in the ABs. He is still to demonstrate that he can link with his support or create opportunities when running from deep, and can be suspect fielding high kicks.

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks bolters:

                              I don't see JRK close to being in the ABs. He is still to demonstrate that he can link with his support or create opportunities when running from deep, and can be suspect fielding high kicks.

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                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks bolters:

                                I don't see JRK close to being in the ABs. He is still to demonstrate that he can link with his support or create opportunities when running from deep, and can be suspect fielding high kicks.

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                                @Bones

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        I don't see JRK close to being in the ABs. He is still to demonstrate that he can link with his support or create opportunities when running from deep, and can be suspect fielding high kicks.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks bolters:

                                        I don't see JRK close to being in the ABs. He is still to demonstrate that he can link with his support or create opportunities when running from deep, and can be suspect fielding high kicks.

                                        i also have Highlander bias...but thats been my one critique of him this year

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                                        • frugbyF frugby

                                          Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                                          Mitch Dunshea considering the lock shortage. Oli Haig... probably more likely for the end of year tour, but the ABs supposedly like him, and want to lock in his availability with England surely circling (and Australia lol).

                                          Depending on how confident they are in fullback options, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens may get a look in. I reckon because of his age he may have jumped Stevenson, so if they want two out and out 15s (rather than Barrett, Perofeta, Nanai-Seturo, Narawa etc.) they could potentially pick him alongside Love.

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                                          @frugby said in All Blacks bolters:

                                          Not going to pretend I'm not bias, but three Highlanders who could be within a shout.

                                          Is Henry Bell your best hooker? The bar to replace Sami T. isn't a high one.

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