All Blacks 2024
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Monday can’t come soon enough
I expect lots of "He may have been shit in the past, but Razor has a track record of getting the best out of players..." comments.
The period from 2019 (or earlier) to 2023 may have ended some promising careers. I do wonder how some players might have performed in a more progressive environment.
We'll never know. But it's going to be different and wonderful now eh?
Akira comes to mind esp. since Cotter seems to have him looking like he is tailor-made for test rugby.
Akira looked tailor-made for Test rugby almost every season of SR he played. Hansen clearly had an issue with him but IMHO he had plenty of opportunities from 2019 to progress and never quite grabbed them.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Monday can’t come soon enough
I expect lots of "He may have been shit in the past, but Razor has a track record of getting the best out of players..." comments.
The period from 2019 (or earlier) to 2023 may have ended some promising careers. I do wonder how some players might have performed in a more progressive environment.
We'll never know. But it's going to be different and wonderful now eh?
Akira comes to mind esp. since Cotter seems to have him looking like he is tailor-made for test rugby.
Akira looked tailor-made for Test rugby almost every season of SR he played. Hansen clearly had an issue with him but IMHO he had plenty of opportunities from 2019 to progress and never quite grabbed them.
He grabbed them as equal (as little) as both Frizell and Blackadder yet the shit human and the walking injury were favoured. That's the way it goes, coaches have their favourites, that tubby guy who is still there now favoured those latter two.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster I gave examples on all 3 scenarios. Taylor's game went up another level after a call up, Harris was just meh, and Aumua wasn't ready and needed a few years to become the complete player he is now.
Harris was looking good until an ankle injury in 2015 effectively ended his career.
Your point stands, but I think any (pre-emptive) frustrations would stem from the fact that Bell is a Crusaders player. If a young and unproven hooker gets selected from any of the other teams, I think there'd be far less criticism (and, chances are, they'd have had a better season than Bell too).
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster I gave examples on all 3 scenarios. Taylor's game went up another level after a call up, Harris was just meh, and Aumua wasn't ready and needed a few years to become the complete player he is now.
Harris was looking good until an ankle injury in 2015 effectively ended his career.
Your point stands, but I think any (pre-emptive) frustrations would stem from the fact that Bell is a Crusaders player. If a young and unproven hooker gets selected from any of the other teams, I think there'd be far less criticism (and, chances are, they'd have had a better season than Bell too).
This is the key point, Bell was shit, he's not being questioned because he's young, unproven and a Cantab, it's those things and shit season.
To give some perspective there were lots of complaints about Coles when he first made the ABs, and his Super form was always pretty decent.
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No Hoskins in the squad
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Another meltdown coming on the fern.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Another meltdown coming on the fern.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Another meltdown coming on the fern.
Let me guess the overrated Cullen Grace gets selected instead? Ffs. I’m not even the biggest Sotutu fan either but he’s definitely more deserving.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Another meltdown coming on the fern.
Let me guess the overrated Cullen Grace gets selected instead? Ffs. I’m not even the biggest Sotutu fan either but he’s definitely more deserving.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Another meltdown coming on the fern.
Let me guess the overrated Cullen Grace gets selected instead? Ffs.
I would not think so.
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Feel bad for Sotutu if true, esp if he plays a good tight game today.
Sounds like Ardie at 8 and a new prospect at 8 then IMO hope it isn't a floating old utility player.. -
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Another meltdown coming on the fern.
Let me guess the overrated Cullen Grace gets selected instead? Ffs. I’m not even the biggest Sotutu fan either but he’s definitely more deserving.
@Canes4life I don’t know the answer to that. But I do know Sititi is in.
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@Canes4life I don’t know the answer to that. But I do know Sititi is in.
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life I don’t know the answer to that. But I do know Sititi is in.
Fair play to Sititi, would be a little awkward if Sotutu smokes him tonight though.
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@Tim Haha, was thinking the same thing.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Rumour is George Bell to be named in the AB squad on Monday.
Has it been confirmed that Taukei'aho is ruled out of the series? Leads you to believe his is. Taylor and Aumua to hold down the fort and hopefully stay healthy.
Apparantly he is out for the series
I guess it makes sense but jeez it’s harsh on RR. Bring in the young guy who has plenty of years ahead of him and is potentially the future I guess is the thought process.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Bring in the young guy who has plenty of years ahead of him
Hardly the next future superstar though
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Can someone on here confirm where the AB announcement is taking place on Monday? Was it Sumner?
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Can someone on here confirm where the AB announcement is taking place on Monday? Was it Sumner?
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Can someone on here confirm where the AB announcement is taking place on Monday? Was it Sumner?
Yep Sumner club rooms
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Can someone on here confirm where the AB announcement is taking place on Monday? Was it Sumner?
Yep Sumner club rooms
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No Hoskins in the squad
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Well that's bullshit as one of the best players this year
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@Chris pretty sure it’s not at St Leonard’s. It’s in chch but not sumner
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris pretty sure it’s not at St Leonard’s. It’s in chch but not sumner
Ah ok I thought it was at St Leonard’s
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No Hoskins in the squad
Well that's bullshit as one of the best players this year
If that’s the case, he could be running out for England in 15 months time
