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Name Your AB Team

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

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    Nepia
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    #296

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    @Frank is the tubby forward coach's white knight.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @Machpants said in Name Your AB Team:

      @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Machpants said in Name Your AB Team:

      @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Machpants said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

      Halfbacks:
      Ratima
      Perenara
      Fakatava

      No Roigard?

      Injured, not considered

      I'll pick mine (and pretend they're all uninjured):

      Then Will Jordan enters for Love?

      I dunno it was @Nepia's no-one-injured team, so I was asking if he thinks that the 3 9s he listed are better than Roigard

      Forgot about Jordan too, or I remembered his perfrormance in the RWC final. 😉

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      nostrildamus
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      @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

      Forgot about Jordan too, or I remembered his perfrormance in the RWC final. 😉

      I am not sure he was 100%?

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

        Forgot about Jordan too, or I remembered his perfrormance in the RWC final. 😉

        I am not sure he was 100%?

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        Nepia
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        #298

        @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

        Forgot about Jordan too, or I remembered his perfrormance in the RWC final. 😉

        I am not sure he was 100%?

        That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

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        • MN5M MN5

          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

          What's the case for not selecting Hoskins Sotutu?

          Lack of flexibility. Can only play 8, so can't cover the bench if Ardie starts

          Didn’t Sotutu play in the backs as a youngster or did I imagine that ?

          He could potentially be up there with Havili in terms of utility value.

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          nostrildamus
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          #299

          @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

          What's the case for not selecting Hoskins Sotutu?

          Lack of flexibility. Can only play 8, so can't cover the bench if Ardie starts

          Didn’t Sotutu play in the backs as a youngster or did I imagine that ?

          He could potentially be up there with Havili in terms of utility value.

          If the team is named with Havili at 8 and Sotutu out, I'll blame you!
          I do wonder why he can't play 6.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

            Forgot about Jordan too, or I remembered his perfrormance in the RWC final. 😉

            I am not sure he was 100%?

            That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

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            nostrildamus
            wrote on last edited by
            #300

            @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

            I am not sure he was 100%?
            That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

            Um, Patty T in the Super Final begs to differ.

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            • MN5M MN5

              @reprobate said in Name Your AB Team:

              I remain hopeful of Ardie to start at 7 and pick both Sotutu and Sititi in the squad.
              We need some size in the pack, and when you have guys like that who are powerful and skillful, they are our point of difference.

              Oh, do other nations not have any players who are powerful and skilful ?

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              nostrildamus
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              #301

              @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

              @reprobate said in Name Your AB Team:

              I remain hopeful of Ardie to start at 7 and pick both Sotutu and Sititi in the squad.
              We need some size in the pack, and when you have guys like that who are powerful and skillful, they are our point of difference.

              Oh, do other nations not have any players who are powerful and skilful ?

              Brad Shields played for England, so there's that.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

                @reprobate said in Name Your AB Team:

                I remain hopeful of Ardie to start at 7 and pick both Sotutu and Sititi in the squad.
                We need some size in the pack, and when you have guys like that who are powerful and skillful, they are our point of difference.

                Oh, do other nations not have any players who are powerful and skilful ?

                Brad Shields played for England, so there's that.

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                MN5
                wrote on last edited by
                #302

                @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

                @reprobate said in Name Your AB Team:

                I remain hopeful of Ardie to start at 7 and pick both Sotutu and Sititi in the squad.
                We need some size in the pack, and when you have guys like that who are powerful and skillful, they are our point of difference.

                Oh, do other nations not have any players who are powerful and skilful ?

                Brad Shields played for England, so there's that.

                Well, he’s certainly powerful

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                  He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                  I disagree.
                  Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                  It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                  It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                  Wrong.
                  Razor selects the loose forwards.
                  Ryan the tight 5.

                  OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                  @Frank is the tubby forward coach's white knight.

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                  Frank
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                  #303

                  @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                  He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                  I disagree.
                  Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                  It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                  It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                  Wrong.
                  Razor selects the loose forwards.
                  Ryan the tight 5.

                  OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                  @Frank is the tubby forward coach's white knight.

                  haha - he has the results.
                  Saders and then ABs made massive improvements with him in charge.

                  Weird, he was everyone's favorite 'til they (Blue supporters and a few others) think he might have had a hand in not selecting their favorite players.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                    I am not sure he was 100%?
                    That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

                    Um, Patty T in the Super Final begs to differ.

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                    Nepia
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #304

                    @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                    I am not sure he was 100%?
                    That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

                    Um, Patty T in the Super Final begs to differ.

                    The issue with that is Patty T played well, Jordan didn't.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                      I am not sure he was 100%?
                      That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

                      Um, Patty T in the Super Final begs to differ.

                      The issue with that is Patty T played well, Jordan didn't.

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                      nostrildamus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #305

                      @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                      I am not sure he was 100%?
                      That's no excuse, shouldn't have played then.

                      Um, Patty T in the Super Final begs to differ.

                      The issue with that is Patty T played well, Jordan didn't.

                      Oh don't hit me with facts, that's forum abuse!

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @reprobate said in Name Your AB Team:

                        I remain hopeful of Ardie to start at 7 and pick both Sotutu and Sititi in the squad.
                        We need some size in the pack, and when you have guys like that who are powerful and skillful, they are our point of difference.

                        Oh, do other nations not have any players who are powerful and skilful ?

                        Brad Shields played for England, so there's that.

                        Well, he’s certainly powerful

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                        nostrildamus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #306

                        @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Well, he’s certainly powerful

                        That was subtle. Is the other half posting?!

                        Back to the thread (sorry Cane fans I don't think Shields is in the frame), I do wonder what if any effect that final might have on Monday announcements. There were some 1:1 matchups that revealed quite a bit, at least in the forwards.

                        I do wonder if Darry could be a quiet contender tomorrow, he did all the basics well, backed up, and was still focused and impactful right at the end.

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                        • FrankF Frank

                          @Nepia said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                          He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                          I disagree.
                          Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                          It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                          It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                          Wrong.
                          Razor selects the loose forwards.
                          Ryan the tight 5.

                          OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                          @Frank is the tubby forward coach's white knight.

                          haha - he has the results.
                          Saders and then ABs made massive improvements with him in charge.

                          Weird, he was everyone's favorite 'til they (Blue supporters and a few others) think he might have had a hand in not selecting their favorite players.

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                          Victor Meldrew
                          wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
                          #307

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Saders and then ABs made massive improvements with him in charge.

                          There was some improvement overall and great in some games. In others - 2nd half against England and against the Bokke at Twickenham - they produced some of the worst AB forwards performances I've seen for years.

                          Work in progress.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            Saders and then ABs made massive improvements with him in charge.

                            There was some improvement overall and great in some games. In others - 2nd half against England and against the Bokke at Twickenham - they produced some of the worst AB forwards performances I've seen for years.

                            Work in progress.

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                            Tim
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                            #308

                            @Victor-Meldrew Shithouse against France too.

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                              chchfanatic
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                              The team I put up was just my opinion. Don’t take everything I say as gospel. I know I’m normally right. I personally wouldn’t pick Havilii or George Bell.

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                              • C chchfanatic

                                The team I put up was just my opinion. Don’t take everything I say as gospel. I know I’m normally right. I personally wouldn’t pick Havilii or George Bell.

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                                canefan
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                                @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                The team I put up was just my opinion. Don’t take everything I say as gospel. I know I’m normally right. I personally wouldn’t pick Havilii or George Bell.

                                So your "secret" list was actually rancid bait? You bastard

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                                  This has got to be the tightest selection security for a long time ...

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                                    canefan
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                                    Makes a change from the leaky ship last season

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Well, he’s certainly powerful

                                      That was subtle. Is the other half posting?!

                                      Back to the thread (sorry Cane fans I don't think Shields is in the frame), I do wonder what if any effect that final might have on Monday announcements. There were some 1:1 matchups that revealed quite a bit, at least in the forwards.

                                      I do wonder if Darry could be a quiet contender tomorrow, he did all the basics well, backed up, and was still focused and impactful right at the end.

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                                      Bones
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #313

                                      @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Darry could be a quiet contender

                                      I don't think it's quiet. If Strange gets selected and Darry doesn't, I'll lose pretty much all faith in Razor. I could understand Vaai ahead of him, but not an inexperienced, ineffective numbnuts.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        This has got to be the tightest selection security for a long time ...

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                                        #314

                                        @Tim said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        This has got to be the tightest selection security for a long time ...

                                        Which I think is a really good thing. The last crew leaked everything.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Darry could be a quiet contender

                                          I don't think it's quiet. If Strange gets selected and Darry doesn't, I'll lose pretty much all faith in Razor. I could understand Vaai ahead of him, but not an inexperienced, ineffective numbnuts.

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                                          canefan
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                                          @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @nostrildamus said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Darry could be a quiet contender

                                          I don't think it's quiet. If Strange gets selected and Darry doesn't, I'll lose pretty much all faith in Razor. I could understand Vaai ahead of him, but not an inexperienced, ineffective numbnuts.

                                          I can understand an out of form incumbent being chosen over an in form newbie. That example doesn't qualify

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