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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    To be fair to Razor this is his first match and has erred on the side of caution.

    Up to a point. The Perofeta and Blackadder selections smack of sticking to players hoping they come right/won't get injured rather than conservative selections.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    To be fair to Razor this is his first match and has erred on the side of caution.

    Up to a point. The Perofeta and Blackadder selections smack of sticking to players hoping they come right/won't get injured rather than conservative selections.

    Is EB even fit? He had the perfect excuse to sit him for now, but chose to put the acid on him right from the go

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      Blackadder showed enough in the games he played. One of the most effective forwards in the comp. On form.

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      • WingerW Winger

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

        if you add in

        Love, Darry, Bower and Havili. Its (I hope - need to check when time)

        Blues 9
        Crusaders 9
        Chiefs 9

        Canes who were top qualifier have 7 (inc Love)

        So, some obvious bias on Robertsons part. Will he be as bad as Deans for example? Time will tell

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        @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

        if you add in

        Love, Darry, Bower and Havili. Its (I hope - need to check when time)

        Blues 9
        Crusaders 9
        Chiefs 9

        Canes who were top qualifier have 7 (inc Love)

        So, some obvious bias on Robertsons part. Will he be as bad as Deans for example? Time will tell

        Don’t you mean John “14 Crusaders in the starting line up” Mitchell ?

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        • KiwiMurphK Online
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          #3891

          Loosies seem a bit unbalanced

          Dalton, Jacobson and Blackadder all play best at 7

          Wonder if they are eyeing up Sititi as 6 option

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            antipodean
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            Razor taking the piss; They’ve earned their places through performance and consistency. Unless it's a catchall statement where he means some earned it through consistently poor performances.

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              #3893

              Razor and co making a strong statement that they think the crusaders coaches are a pile of shit.

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              • No QuarterN Online
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                No Quarter
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                Razor trying to usher in another era of Cantablacks except this time around his beloved Crusaders are the shittest team in NZ

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  To be fair to Razor this is his first match and has erred on the side of caution.

                  Up to a point. The Perofeta and Blackadder selections smack of sticking to players hoping they come right/won't get injured rather than conservative selections.

                  Is EB even fit? He had the perfect excuse to sit him for now, but chose to put the acid on him right from the go

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                  Victor Meldrew
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                  #3895

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  To be fair to Razor this is his first match and has erred on the side of caution.

                  Up to a point. The Perofeta and Blackadder selections smack of sticking to players hoping they come right/won't get injured rather than conservative selections.

                  Is EB even fit? He had the perfect excuse to sit him for now, but chose to put the acid on him right from the go

                  Well, I've been asking myself: "How good is EB and how does he stack up against other players?".

                  And the big issue is we don't have a clue as we haven't seen him play enough rugby.

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                  • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                    They won how many in a row?

                    All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                    (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                    So form means nothing. Got it.

                    Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                    A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

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                    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                    They won how many in a row?

                    All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                    (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                    So form means nothing. Got it.

                    Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                    A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

                    thats a laughable take, the blues were still 3rd last year....so their ordinary form was still miles better than the crusaders this year

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      They must back themselves to get the best out of Perofeta. He's got the talent and his utility of 10/15 makes him a valuable squad member, but he's been very flaky mentally to date.

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                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      They must back themselves to get the best out of Perofeta.

                      He's a place-holder in the squad until Jordan returns. BB will start at fullback against England, and take that 10/15 cover role later in the year.

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                        So when Blackadder injures himself in the first five mins of the first test, I hope Lakai has his bags packed.

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                        • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                          They won how many in a row?

                          All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                          (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                          So form means nothing. Got it.

                          Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                          A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

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                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                          They won how many in a row?

                          All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                          (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                          So form means nothing. Got it.

                          Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                          A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

                          Nepo Laulala
                          Ofa Tu’ungafasi
                          Dalton Papali’i
                          Finlay Christie
                          Beauden Barrett
                          Rieko Ioane
                          Caleb Clarke
                          Mark Telea

                          Which of those had a legitimately better player miss out? Keep in mind I think Laulala offered zero outside of his scrummaging, but if you wanted a rock in that regard I could see why he was picked.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

                            That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

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                            #3900

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

                            That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

                            Leon McDonald was the outside back selector, Perofeta over Love was obviously his call & it's the only selection of the 32 that I disagree with - which isn't surprising because McDonald's selections at the Blues were consistently terrible.

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                            • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                              They won how many in a row?

                              All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                              (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                              So form means nothing. Got it.

                              Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                              A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

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                              Victor Meldrew
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                              #3901

                              @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

                              I'd hoped we'd turned the page on that sort of shit.

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                              • WingerW Winger

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                                if you add in

                                Love, Darry, Bower and Havili. Its (I hope - need to check when time)

                                Blues 9
                                Crusaders 9
                                Chiefs 9

                                Canes who were top qualifier have 7 (inc Love)

                                So, some obvious bias on Robertsons part. Will he be as bad as Deans for example? Time will tell

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                                Canes4life
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                                #3902

                                @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                                if you add in

                                Love, Darry, Bower and Havili. Its (I hope - need to check when time)

                                Blues 9
                                Crusaders 9
                                Chiefs 9

                                Canes who were top qualifier have 7 (inc Love)

                                So, some obvious bias on Robertsons part. Will he be as bad as Deans for example? Time will tell

                                Add in Numia and Roigard later in the year and the Canes will have more eventually.

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                                • R ruggabee

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

                                  That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

                                  Leon McDonald was the outside back selector, Perofeta over Love was obviously his call & it's the only selection of the 32 that I disagree with - which isn't surprising because McDonald's selections at the Blues were consistently terrible.

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                                  #3903

                                  @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

                                  That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

                                  Leon McDonald was the outside back selector, Perofeta over Love was obviously his call & it's the only selection of the 32 that I disagree with - which isn't surprising Leon's selections at the Blues were consistently terrible.

                                  Too many concussions in his playing career.

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                                    alt text

                                    dont think a pic of the list has been posted

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                                      Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                                      Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

                                      Inclusivity pick.
                                      At least 2% of the viewership are women.

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                                      • nostrildamusN Online
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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        #3906

                                        Havili shouldn't even be cover IMO. I don't mind the Bower cover choice but the Havili call shits me. Surely there is more reliable or fresh talent to build up. A J Lam for example.

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                                          Still scratching my head over Bell, Perofeta. Not convinced by Beaudy either. Have to feel for Ricci, and Love. Whilst stoked for Sititi, gutted for Hoskins. Lakai and Iose's day will come. Agree this may point to Jordan coming back in for TRC.

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