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  • D DaGrubster

    Really good interview with Scott Hansen on Aotearoa rugby pod. Talks a lot about Hoskins in it

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Really good interview with Scott Hansen on Aotearoa rugby pod. Talks a lot about Hoskins in it

    What does he say?

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      The pattern here is that it is better to be impactful off the bench then have a run of good starting games.

      I think / hope Sititi will be very good, but his body of work is much more Frizell.

      It’s worth remembering that Kaino was tried, failed (too loose) then came back a few years later. It doesn’t seem that Akira or Sotutu will get the chance.

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      • gt12G gt12

        Need a translation of log here - he spends too much time on the ground, ergo, lazy? No repeated efforts?

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        @gt12 left on ground

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        • gt12G gt12

          The pattern here is that it is better to be impactful off the bench then have a run of good starting games.

          I think / hope Sititi will be very good, but his body of work is much more Frizell.

          It’s worth remembering that Kaino was tried, failed (too loose) then came back a few years later. It doesn’t seem that Akira or Sotutu will get the chance.

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          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          It doesn’t seem that Akira or Sotutu will get the chance.

          TBF, Akira has had the chances. Whether he would have pushed on this year given another chance, we'll never know.

          Sotutu a bit different and I think they've missed a trick here.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @antipodean can the penalty stats be broken down to what they were for?

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @antipodean can the penalty stats be broken down to what they were for?

            I'm sure at SR/AB level they have that breakdown, but I just go off the publicly available ones.

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            • C chchfanatic

              @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

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              @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

              I've watched him plenty close enough. Spends less time on the ground than Finau for sure. And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

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                It is notable how many "repeat" involvements Sititi has, but that's probably a bit easier when you're off the bench and/or doing less tight work.

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                  Now that I think about it, ironically Sititi really reminds me of a young Sotutu, just without the wide passing or grubber game.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

                    I've watched him plenty close enough. Spends less time on the ground than Finau for sure. And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

                    I've watched him plenty close enough. Spends less time on the ground than Finau for sure. And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

                    Funny to hear people say stuff (no one in particular on here) that Hoskins is a flat track bully that benefited from playing behind a great Blues pack this season. Does the poor bastard get no credit for being a big part of that? Besides, I could argue the same thing for a number of Canty and Auckland forwards over the years, who rode on the back of a superior pack, all the way into black

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      4,000 posts, nearly 300k views.

                      Razor's great for internet providers

                      Still has a long way to go to overtake the guns n strippers, and the Middle East threads

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      4,000 posts, nearly 300k views.

                      Razor's great for internet providers

                      Still has a long way to go to overtake the guns n strippers, and the Middle East threads

                      Give it time. I haven’t even got started on the fact that Razor selected:

                      Proctor over McLeod
                      Tuipulotu over Strange
                      Perofeta over Cameron
                      Perenara over Roe
                      Narawa over Sam Gilbert

                      Serious questions to be answered on what looks like a pattern of selection that I don’t even want to label.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        4,000 posts, nearly 300k views.

                        Razor's great for internet providers

                        Still has a long way to go to overtake the guns n strippers, and the Middle East threads

                        Give it time. I haven’t even got started on the fact that Razor selected:

                        Proctor over McLeod
                        Tuipulotu over Strange
                        Perofeta over Cameron
                        Perenara over Roe
                        Narawa over Sam Gilbert

                        Serious questions to be answered on what looks like a pattern of selection that I don’t even want to label.

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                        @ACT-Crusader Sititi over Grace? Lomax over Dyer?

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          4,000 posts, nearly 300k views.

                          Razor's great for internet providers

                          Still has a long way to go to overtake the guns n strippers, and the Middle East threads

                          Give it time. I haven’t even got started on the fact that Razor selected:

                          Proctor over McLeod
                          Tuipulotu over Strange
                          Perofeta over Cameron
                          Perenara over Roe
                          Narawa over Sam Gilbert

                          Serious questions to be answered on what looks like a pattern of selection that I don’t even want to label.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Proctor over McLoed
                          Tuipoluto over Strange

                          then he rang the wrong people

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Proctor over McLoed
                            Tuipoluto over Strange

                            then he rang the wrong people

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                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Proctor over McLoed
                            Tuipoluto over Strange

                            then he rang the wrong people

                            You might be missing a trick there...

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                              Well he already accidentally selected Sititi instead of Sotutu, and now he has to act like it was his idea all along....

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                                Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
                                Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak

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                                @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better.
                                . You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak

                                Crazy that people are now to the point of defending the decision of not selecting Sotutu and one of their main things to back up their point is using his instagram caption after winning a final and his apparent ‘mentally weak’ mindset when the guy dominated other elite professional athletes all season long.

                                It’s a fucking instagram caption. For all we know he’s referring to the Blues being the ‘most hated’. Yikes. I can’t believe what I’m reading on all platforms. It’s clear as day he was robbed of a spot in the 32 selected.

                                Hope he somehow makes it into the Rugby Championship 36 and continues to absolutely kill it(if he’s given the chance).

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

                                  I've watched him plenty close enough. Spends less time on the ground than Finau for sure. And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

                                  Assume that is when Bladder is actually playing?

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                                  • Landers92L Landers92

                                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better.
                                    . You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak

                                    Crazy that people are now to the point of defending the decision of not selecting Sotutu and one of their main things to back up their point is using his instagram caption after winning a final and his apparent ‘mentally weak’ mindset when the guy dominated other elite professional athletes all season long.

                                    It’s a fucking instagram caption. For all we know he’s referring to the Blues being the ‘most hated’. Yikes. I can’t believe what I’m reading on all platforms. It’s clear as day he was robbed of a spot in the 32 selected.

                                    Hope he somehow makes it into the Rugby Championship 36 and continues to absolutely kill it(if he’s given the chance).

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                                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better.
                                    . You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak

                                    Crazy that people are now to the point of defending the decision of not selecting Sotutu and one of their main things to back up their point is using his instagram caption after winning a final and his apparent ‘mentally weak’ mindset when the guy dominated other elite professional athletes all season long.

                                    It’s a fucking instagram caption. For all we know he’s referring to the Blues being the ‘most hated’. Yikes. I can’t believe what I’m reading on all platforms. It’s clear as day he was robbed on a spot in the 32 selected.

                                    Hope he somehow makes it into the Rugby Championship 36 and continues to absolutely kill it(if he’s given the chance).

                                    To me this explanation makes the most sense. Otherwise what is he trying to say? He's most hated? Just weird. It will only take one or two injuries and he's back in the squad, either at the RC or EOYT. If he's passed over in that eventuality we will know that the new mob are lying

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

                                      Assume that is when Bladder is actually playing?

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

                                      Assume that is when Bladder is actually playing?

                                      He plays?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

                                        Assume that is when Bladder is actually playing?

                                        He plays?

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

                                        Assume that is when Bladder is actually playing?

                                        He plays?

                                        Trains the house down. Apparently.

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          Well he already accidentally selected Sititi instead of Sotutu, and now he has to act like it was his idea all along....

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                                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Well he already accidentally selected Sititi instead of Sotutu, and now he has to act like it was his idea all along....

                                          Could it in fact just be a typo or poor spelling? He spilt his coffee on his notebook?

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