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    @Chris Yep just found him.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    From Two Cents Rugby channel.
    Hoskins scored way more tries and assists and good passing.
    Sotutu is also better in turnovers.
    Far less tackles than the others (though Jacobson shouldn't be in there because he was 7)

    Aligns with the comment on his work on both sides of the ball.
    I think they think he shirks the defensive work.
    According to this guy Blues made marginally less tackles than the Chiefs overall in the season. Can't vouch for his numbers.

    Blue line is tackles per game.(Sotutu lowest)
    Orange line is missed tackles (Sotutu highest)

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    It's evident to me that their analysis is including the finals, which pumps up Sititi's defensive numbers because that's pretty much all the Chiefs did in the final. Sititi practically doubled his season average.

    Season data looks a little more like this:
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    What's telling is the work on the other side of the ball.

    Metres Carries DB CB Passes O TA Points
    Sotutu 638 120 26 5 124 17 7 55
    Sititi 361 102 18 3 46 5 0 10

    Guess Razor isn't as interested in attack.

    Missing forest for trees.

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    This should have been identified before and then supported by the right specialist in the Blues/ABs.

    The AB coaching set up worked with the Crusaders to take a look at Havili at 10 so you'd expect/think they did the same with the Blues and Hossa.

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    Lakai is with the team as an ‘emerging player’. He was told he will be with the team for 2 weeks.

    At the camp held the other week, Ruben Love was running at 10, Beauden Barrett wasn’t training much due to some kind of injury/infection. As far as I know, he is fine now.

    The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.

    Caleb Clarke injury is also fine.

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Together We Walk

    Jun 25, 2024

    'Together we walk' - Razor reveals theme connecting the All Blacks

    'Together we walk' - Razor reveals theme connecting the All Blacks

    The new All Blacks head coach gave an insight into what will drive his team this year as they prepare for a demanding 14-Test schedule.

    I hope his coaching is better than his oratory, because that is fucking cringeworthy.

    "We come together from all over the country. These players have been given a gift from their mum and dad to play our great game of rugby."

    “We’re representing the past players that went before us that left deep footprints and now it’s our chance to walk forward into the blackness.

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    @Victor-Meldrew

    Very reminiscent of Kirwan “Better never stops”

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    Having an 8 who is excellent in lineout served us very well when Reado was in his pomp.

    Seems we only have one top option in loosies, which is Finau.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.

    The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final

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    Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.

    From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Having an 8 who is excellent in lineout served us very well when Reado was in his pomp.

    Seems we only have one top option in loosies, which is Finau.

    Read was lucky to be selected really, no versatility.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.

    I hope you're not basing that off a fucking Instagram caption. Has he come out and clearly stated he's upset/pissed off? What have I missed?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.

    I hope you're not basing that off a fucking Instagram caption. Has he come out and clearly stated he's upset/pissed off? What have I missed?

    No.

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    @Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.

    I hope you're not basing that off a fucking Instagram caption. Has he come out and clearly stated he's upset/pissed off? What have I missed?

    Given the timing I think it's logical he's expressing his disappointment / frustration. It's unlikely he's going to hold a press conference telling the AB selectors to fuck themselves.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.

    The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final

    Haha yeah mate, hence why I said the gap between those named(Dmac and Perofeta were in the final).

    Interesting they didn’t take a look at any other 10s that weren’t playing in the final is my point. Eg Someone they are eyeing up for AB’s XV.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?

    I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.

    From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.

    No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?

    I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.

    Is he supposed to be happy about it?
    Who would be?

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.

    From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.

    No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?

    On reflection, It's possible that he has an attitude problem of some kind which they didn't like - as well as the work-ons. Maybe his SM reaction confirmed that?

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Cullen Grace was named in the Maori squad?

    Yeah he is I thought they are already training they play this Saturday.

    The Māori team flew to Japan today. We'll know soon enough if Grace wasn't on the plane.

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