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All Blacks vs England I

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

    Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

    Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

    It is coming

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

    Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

    Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

    It is coming

    Our current captain is a red card coming always so no point making it a bigger issue than it is. (Edit: Missed @KiwiMurph already getting this dig in.) At least we got some practice playing with 14 last year. 😉

    What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.

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    • menceyM mencey

      When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

      Anyone know? Thx

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      @mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:

      When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

      Anyone know? Thx

      Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.

      Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.

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        I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

        Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

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        • frugbyF frugby

          @mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:

          When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

          Anyone know? Thx

          Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.

          Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.

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          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:

          When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

          Anyone know? Thx

          Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.

          Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.

          thx. Love them 2

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            No Quarter
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            @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

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              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

              @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

              Well said. 2 right

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

                It is coming

                Our current captain is a red card coming always so no point making it a bigger issue than it is. (Edit: Missed @KiwiMurph already getting this dig in.) At least we got some practice playing with 14 last year. 😉

                What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.

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                Chris B.
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                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England I:

                What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.

                I liked the team better when I read it from numbers 1 to 15 than my initial reading of 15 to 1.

                I was very surprised Beaden wasn't starting at 15.

                Beaudy to 10 and DMac to 15 if things are going poorly?

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                  im more accepting of the risk with finau as he's actually trying to make a game changing move catching a 10 so far behind the line....scotter has dropped his shoulder into a guy lying on the ruck for absolutely no gain

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                    Razor's Crusaders generally liked to push the limits with the refs.

                    Will be interesting to see how the ABs do under him re: discipline in a test arena with different refs

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                      Remember the days when our bench was selected for impact and we owned the last 30 minutes?

                      That bench just screams injury cover

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

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                        mariner4life
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                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

                        in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

                        I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey

                          That jersey is a psychological masterstroke for England.

                          It has an Eton collar - so if things are going badly for us, we only need say in lordly tones, "I say old chap, how dare you tackle me. Naff off" - and the English will lie down before us.

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          That jersey is a psychological masterstroke

                          Sports jersey colour is a thing for sure. Lots of research been done on it.

                          Google throws this up which amuses me:
                          Yellow: A cheerful, vibrant color, yellow is associated with enthusiasm and excitement. Australian cricket teams frequently wear yellow uniforms"

                          Yellow - not gold.
                          There is no comment on Black and I seriously doubt that the English pysche will be affected by a white collar.

                          That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

                            in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

                            I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

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                            #343

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

                            in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

                            I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

                            Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch teams.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

                              in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

                              I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

                              Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch teams.

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                              mariner4life
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                              @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

                              in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

                              I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

                              Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch team.

                              TBF, the NRL has a way to go, because some shit that gets let go....

                              But in complete agreeance that i believe contact sports are in serious danger. Once the door opened to the argument "look, i voluntarily played a game where the risk of getting smashed in the head was really high, but it is your fault i got smashed in the head" and the attitudes of soccer mums became more important than fans, we were doomed.

                              So lets enjoy it while we can. Lets pick guys who want to eat the opposition. Lets go to Ireland and lay their fucking 10 out so i can masturbate to the howls from the crowd. Lets bring about the end quickly with a team of unprecedented brutality.

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                              • SnowyS Snowy

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                That jersey is a psychological masterstroke

                                Sports jersey colour is a thing for sure. Lots of research been done on it.

                                Google throws this up which amuses me:
                                Yellow: A cheerful, vibrant color, yellow is associated with enthusiasm and excitement. Australian cricket teams frequently wear yellow uniforms"

                                Yellow - not gold.
                                There is no comment on Black and I seriously doubt that the English pysche will be affected by a white collar.

                                That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

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                                @Snowy said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

                                That is a definite concern.

                                Within reason, this team looks like they've favoured people who have played recently.

                                Perofeta > Beauden
                                Jacobson > Blackadder
                                Ofa > Williams

                                Only four Crusaders in the 23, which must be the least for a Tier 1 test match in a while. Noted for those who were squealing about bias! 🙂

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                                  No Quarter
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                                  #346

                                  @Chris-B the Crusaders couldn't make the top 8 in a 12 team competition, even the Highlanders managed that! 4 is too many.

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                                    #347

                                    Some changes for the second test!

                                    https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-xdZxS_Wt/?igsh=dmtpNnd3NjgzZzlk

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      @Chris-B the Crusaders couldn't make the top 8 in a 12 team competition, even the Highlanders managed that! 4 is too many.

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                                      @No-Quarter Razor is a very smart man.

                                      When this team stacked with North Islanders falls over the first hurdle, he'll sack Wayne Smith from his selection oversight role and install @ACT-Crusader ! 🙂

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                                        My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                                        I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                                          I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                          My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                                          I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                                          Definitely need to see what pattern they play. I'm hoping for a little more simplicity, less high risk and more direct

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