All Blacks vs England I

[Chester Draws]

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

Foster would 100% have started Beauden.

He would have started Cane, if that was an option. As captain.

He seemed to strongly favour Vaa'i over Tuipolotu.

I'm not sure he would have started Reece either.

Definitely Blackadder, but is he fit?

Towards the end Foster started to get the team mostly right (forced by injuries generally) so really it isn't a surprise that the team isn't radically different. The game plan is what will matter, not the personnel. That is particularly important with DMc, who he never really had a game plan for at all.

[Chris]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

Who is fucking bitching I mention he is a potential Red card and he will be.
I would still pick him I like his intimation factor now you are circling the Chiefs wagons Sir Duke.

[mariner4life]

50/50

[Dan54]

@Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

[Chris]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

[DaGrubster]

@frugby

Father McKenzie!?

[Victor Meldrew]

Pretty much continuity-Foster as expected, which is understandable in many ways.

Perofeta a surprise but makes sense if they think BB is lacking big-match fitness. Worry he's a bit flaky but let's see how he goes. Could be just holding the paper bag until Jordan returns.

As other have said, how they play will be something to watch. I don't expect too much change there either.

[Mr Fish]

Very disappointed to see Perenara and Christie in the same 23 but otherwise it's about as good as we currently have on offer. Wouldn't have minded seeing ALB/Proctor at centre with Ioane on the bench but not surprised.

[pakman]

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

Any word on injuries?

Blackadder I assume

:astonished_face:

[MN5]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

[pakman]

@No-Quarter So long as folding them at waist, worst case penalty.

[ACT Crusader]

Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

Ofa - Blues
Scooter - Saders
Jordie - Canes
Cane - Chiefs

This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

[Dan54]

@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

To be honest there has basically been none over here. He was seen as doing what we have always applauded as a 6, hitting 10s hard! I do think 1 was a tad late, but nowhere as bad as what was made out by Aua press!

[MN5]

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

Ofa - Blues
Scooter - Saders
Jordie - Canes
Cane - Chiefs

This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

[KiwiMurph]

I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

Good shit

[Mattasaurus]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

Good shit

Yup me too, love it. Hope it continues.

[chchfanatic]

@Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

[Victor Meldrew]

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

[Mr Fish]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

Good shit

That's been the standard for many years? Foster and co did the exact same thing.

[Bovidae]

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.