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All Blacks vs England I

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #386

    Pretty much continuity-Foster as expected, which is understandable in many ways.

    Perofeta a surprise but makes sense if they think BB is lacking big-match fitness. Worry he's a bit flaky but let's see how he goes. Could be just holding the paper bag until Jordan returns.

    As other have said, how they play will be something to watch. I don't expect too much change there either.

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    • Mr FishM Online
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      Very disappointed to see Perenara and Christie in the same 23 but otherwise it's about as good as we currently have on offer. Wouldn't have minded seeing ALB/Proctor at centre with Ioane on the bench but not surprised.

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

        Any word on injuries?

        Blackadder I assume

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        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

        @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

        Any word on injuries?

        Blackadder I assume

        :astonished_face:

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          #389

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

          Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

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          • No QuarterN No Quarter

            Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.

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            @No-Quarter So long as folding them at waist, worst case penalty.

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            • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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              #391

              Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

              Ofa - Blues
              Scooter - Saders
              Jordie - Canes
              Cane - Chiefs

              This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

                I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

                I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

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                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

                I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

                I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

                To be honest there has basically been none over here. He was seen as doing what we have always applauded as a 6, hitting 10s hard! I do think 1 was a tad late, but nowhere as bad as what was made out by Aua press!

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                  Ofa - Blues
                  Scooter - Saders
                  Jordie - Canes
                  Cane - Chiefs

                  This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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                  MN5
                  wrote on last edited by ACT Crusader
                  #393

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                  Ofa - Blues
                  Scooter - Saders
                  Jordie - Canes
                  Cane - Chiefs

                  This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                  I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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                    #394

                    I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                    Good shit

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                      Good shit

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                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                      Good shit

                      Yup me too, love it. Hope it continues.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                        Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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                        chchfanatic
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                        #396

                        @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                        He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                        The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                          Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                          No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                          Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                          Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                            Good shit

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                            Good shit

                            That's been the standard for many years? Foster and co did the exact same thing.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                              Ofa - Blues
                              Scooter - Saders
                              Jordie - Canes
                              Cane - Chiefs

                              This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                              I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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                              Bovidae
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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                              Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.

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                                @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                                He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                                The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

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                                Kirwan
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                                @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                                He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                                The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

                                Not the best six, they chased him off.

                                I wouldn’t have gone with TJ either, or Perofeta. DMac may be the best ten in NZ but not convinced about him yet. Feels like an impact player to me.

                                So meh.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                                  No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                                  Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                                  Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                                  No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                                  Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                                  Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

                                  And Ardie? If Perofeta gets in over BB for that reason, why isn’t Sititi starting? If he’s not ready to start, why didn’t they pick Sotutu.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                                    Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                                    Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.

                                    In hindsight Beaudie taking the drop goal 3 wasn't the best option either in that game. The issue with taking 3 in that scenario is with the kick off you end up back in your own half from the following restart. Would have been better off keeping England pinned back in their own half.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                      Ofa - Blues
                                      Scooter - Saders
                                      Jordie - Canes
                                      Cane - Chiefs

                                      This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                      I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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                                      Victor Meldrew
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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                      Ofa - Blues
                                      Scooter - Saders
                                      Jordie - Canes
                                      Cane - Chiefs

                                      This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                      I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                                      Robertson's rolled the dice with Scooter in that regard. Could be the making of him though.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                                        No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                                        Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                                        Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

                                        And Ardie? If Perofeta gets in over BB for that reason, why isn’t Sititi starting? If he’s not ready to start, why didn’t they pick Sotutu.

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                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        why isn’t Sititi starting

                                        Experience, I'd suggest. SP has been around the AB's for some time and Wallace hasn't. It'd be a bit weird if he's doesn't get a cap in the next two Tests though.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                          Ofa - Blues
                                          Scooter - Saders
                                          Jordie - Canes
                                          Cane - Chiefs

                                          This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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                                          wrote on last edited by ACT Crusader
                                          #405

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                          Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                          Ofa - Blues
                                          Scooter - Saders
                                          Jordie - Canes
                                          Cane - Chiefs

                                          This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                          Um, yes it is!

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