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All Blacks vs England I

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  • M Machpants

    Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait

    The issue is Christie has never changed the time wasting and we are years and years into his career.

    He's not going to suddenly change.

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    • M Machpants

      Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait

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      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

      Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait

      Yeah I think everyone has all their fingers and toes crossed Roigard can get back to his best after that horrific injury.

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      • chimoausC chimoaus

        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

        Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait

        How was Smith able to do that, did he just have a better feel for where the game was going, trust himself to make instant calls?

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        @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:

        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

        Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait

        How was Smith able to do that, did he just have a better feel for where the game was going, trust himself to make instant calls?

        Totally, but these guys have been around long enough to just do it

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        • M Machpants

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

          Who would be the next halfback if Perenara is ruled out

          Fakatava?

          Please no, he's awful this season. Reece would be great there no shit, he does well and is often there when the nine didn't make it

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          @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

          Who would be the next halfback if Perenara is ruled out

          Fakatava?

          Please no, he's awful this season. Reece would be great there no shit, he does well and is often there when the nine didn't make it

          Reece has a good fast pass so no he can't be an AB 9 🙂

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          • chimoausC chimoaus

            @African-Monkey Failed to use it from scrum. Got caught at base of ruck. And took ages to pass. Not all his fault but needs to be quicker to make decisions IMO. Not bad at all but room for improvement.

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            @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:

            And took ages to pass

            cHRISTIE can get it away quickly, But rarely does

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

              @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

              @Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:

              bring back foster

              And we would lose by 30

              If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.

              Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.

              On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.

              Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter and missed 2 conversions

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              @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

              Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter

              Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter

                Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter

                Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?

                Both Christie and DMac have cloth ears

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                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                  Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                  Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

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                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                  Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

                  His box kicking was good and the chase (when there was one) put enormous pressure on England. Helped ensure we played in the right part of the field.

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                    Far prefer us kicking it long.
                    Most of last 4 years we have been doing own half dinks, hospitals and hail marys

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                      Was pretty impressed with our high ball receptions.

                      England kicked a lot (like us) and between Perofeta, Jordie, DMac - we really diffused that tactic.

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                        It would be interesting to see how often we went backwards when the halfback waits for a second before making a choice. England just hammered us anytime we did the out the back move to a. Static forward. We went backwards a lot it seemed.

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                          You can see why Robertson wants Mo'unga back.

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                            Next week is going to be a far different style of game at a dewy Eden Park.

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                            • M Machpants

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter

                              Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?

                              Both Christie and DMac have cloth ears

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter

                              Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?

                              Both Christie and DMac have cloth ears

                              I reckon Savea is partially deaf, in interviews he is always struggling to hear.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                bring back foster

                                And we would lose by 30

                                If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.

                                Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.

                                On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew if Dmac had nailed his we would have won by more
                                If, but, maybe
                                Why is this forum so negative
                                England are a GOOD TEAM

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                                  Meh. Lucky Borthwick is a shit coach. There for the taking, they were bad.

                                  I thought we'd got rid of Foster as coach? Yuck, didn't see anything encouraging in that performance.

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                                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                                    It would be interesting to see how often we went backwards when the halfback waits for a second before making a choice. England just hammered us anytime we did the out the back move to a. Static forward. We went backwards a lot it seemed.

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                                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    It would be interesting to see how often we went backwards when the halfback waits for a second before making a choice. England just hammered us anytime we did the out the back move to a. Static forward. We went backwards a lot it seemed.

                                    I think that was a massive factor in the game.... Two very similar halves in TJ and Christie.... Cortez will make a big difference imo

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                                      Izzy Dagg looks drunk

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                                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                                        I actually think a tight 1 point win and players being under massive pressure is a really good outcome. It shows exactly where we need to improve. What players need to step uo etc. Had we played Tonga and won by 70 we would be none the wiser.

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                                        @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        Had we played Tonga and won by 70 we would be none the wiser.

                                        We tonked world No.1, Ireland in the 1st Test in 2022 and no one complained. Worked out well...

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                                          On the positive I enjoyed the game and really looking forward to next week. I am confident the coaches will grow over the season and adapt as they go.

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