All Blacks vs England I
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Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:
Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait
Yeah I think everyone has all their fingers and toes crossed Roigard can get back to his best after that horrific injury.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:
Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait
How was Smith able to do that, did he just have a better feel for where the game was going, trust himself to make instant calls?
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:
Christie was fine, he just (same as TJ) needs to act rather than fuck about. Bullet pass Smith is missed, but more that fact he rarely wasted time at the ruck. Just play and don't wait
How was Smith able to do that, did he just have a better feel for where the game was going, trust himself to make instant calls?
Totally, but these guys have been around long enough to just do it
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
Who would be the next halfback if Perenara is ruled out
Fakatava?
Please no, he's awful this season. Reece would be great there no shit, he does well and is often there when the nine didn't make it
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
Who would be the next halfback if Perenara is ruled out
Fakatava?
Please no, he's awful this season. Reece would be great there no shit, he does well and is often there when the nine didn't make it
Reece has a good fast pass so no he can't be an AB 9
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@African-Monkey Failed to use it from scrum. Got caught at base of ruck. And took ages to pass. Not all his fault but needs to be quicker to make decisions IMO. Not bad at all but room for improvement.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:
bring back foster
And we would lose by 30
If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.
Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.
On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.
Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter and missed 2 conversions
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter
Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter
Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter
Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?
Both Christie and DMac have cloth ears
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Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.
Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England I:
Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.
Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.
His box kicking was good and the chase (when there was one) put enormous pressure on England. Helped ensure we played in the right part of the field.
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Far prefer us kicking it long.
Most of last 4 years we have been doing own half dinks, hospitals and hail marys -
Was pretty impressed with our high ball receptions.
England kicked a lot (like us) and between Perofeta, Jordie, DMac - we really diffused that tactic.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter
Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?
Both Christie and DMac have cloth ears
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter
Inexcusable. Did no one in the coaching setup brief the players on the shot-clock?
Both Christie and DMac have cloth ears
I reckon Savea is partially deaf, in interviews he is always struggling to hear.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:
bring back foster
And we would lose by 30
If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.
Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.
On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.
@Victor-Meldrew if Dmac had nailed his we would have won by more
If, but, maybe
Why is this forum so negative
England are a GOOD TEAM -
It would be interesting to see how often we went backwards when the halfback waits for a second before making a choice. England just hammered us anytime we did the out the back move to a. Static forward. We went backwards a lot it seemed.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
It would be interesting to see how often we went backwards when the halfback waits for a second before making a choice. England just hammered us anytime we did the out the back move to a. Static forward. We went backwards a lot it seemed.
I think that was a massive factor in the game.... Two very similar halves in TJ and Christie.... Cortez will make a big difference imo
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I actually think a tight 1 point win and players being under massive pressure is a really good outcome. It shows exactly where we need to improve. What players need to step uo etc. Had we played Tonga and won by 70 we would be none the wiser.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
Had we played Tonga and won by 70 we would be none the wiser.
We tonked world No.1, Ireland in the 1st Test in 2022 and no one complained. Worked out well...
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You can tell it's a really poor AB performance when the openside flanker has to go off his line frequently to help clean.
Apart from the scrum, that was a step backwards in every aspect. Little or no effective ball carrying up the middle. No connection between carriers and cleaners. Lots of shit side to side play. Lots of very poor kicking. Defense awful.
Few effective ball carriers in the team, and almost never used them repeatedly up the middle. Like one of those terrible "out-flank them" game plans that got smashed by South Africa in the bad old days.
Very much didn't look like there was any plan to control ball, territory, well anything?
Will have to be a hell of a lot better next week. Looked like a squad who had no idea how to play test rugby.
Finau looked fucking useless out there, but maybe it was just the shit game plan. Our tacklers certainly weren't in the right positions at all, and neither were cleaners.
Way too often we were tackling big English ball-carriers side on, almost like a cover tackle, and giving them plenty of time to get speed up. Really poor.
Of course the reserves looked better, it was an intense first 60 minutes ...
