All Blacks vs England 2
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:
I want a halfback that has speed and length in their pass.
TTT?
@pakman said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:
I want a halfback that has speed and length in their pass.
TTT?
Nah, his passing is nowhere near as good as it was when he made the ABs.
It was noticeable how slow TJP's passing was. Christie has a better pass but takes so long to actually pass the ball. If you are trying to beat the rush defence it starts with the service from the halfback.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Noah Hotham?
I suspect he may be close to getting picked. Not saying I would select him, but when he started looking like he belonged in Super Rugby this year he showed a handy running game, a crisp pass and the ability to clear under pressure.
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Noah Hotham?
I suspect he may be close to getting picked. Not saying I would select him, but when he started looking like he belonged in Super Rugby this year he showed a handy running game, a crisp pass and the ability to clear under pressure.
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
arguably less controversial - the pass is clearly there and the other options aren't doing particularly well. Bell wound up on the bench at times, and has some real issues in the core role (throwing).
Dont' worry though, the renowned thrower Corey Flynn will fix him
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
arguably less controversial - the pass is clearly there and the other options aren't doing particularly well. Bell wound up on the bench at times, and has some real issues in the core role (throwing).
Dont' worry though, the renowned thrower Corey Flynn will fix him
@nzzp least they didnt get Anton Oliver in too...
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
arguably less controversial - the pass is clearly there and the other options aren't doing particularly well. Bell wound up on the bench at times, and has some real issues in the core role (throwing).
Dont' worry though, the renowned thrower Corey Flynn will fix him
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
arguably less controversial - the pass is clearly there and the other options aren't doing particularly well. Bell wound up on the bench at times, and has some real issues in the core role (throwing).
Dont' worry though, the renowned thrower Corey Flynn will fix him
Bell's throwing is a weird one. Up to this season I don't remember it being a problem.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
He could be the backline selection version of Bell.
arguably less controversial - the pass is clearly there and the other options aren't doing particularly well. Bell wound up on the bench at times, and has some real issues in the core role (throwing).
Dont' worry though, the renowned thrower Corey Flynn will fix him
Bell's throwing is a weird one. Up to this season I don't remember it being a problem.
@Crazy-Horse He's barely played at professional level tbh up until this season.
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@Crazy-Horse He's barely played at professional level tbh up until this season.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Crazy-Horse He's barely played at professional level tbh up until this season.
Yeah, I was thinking NPC and in particular, when he played for the NZ Under 20's or whatever they were a couple of years ago.
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TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham
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TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing
He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing
He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing
He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.
yeah Probably the next best runner from the base behind Roigard, looking for something different than what they have I would guess.
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It's a cunning plan to have the Waikato region providing all of the AB halfbacks.
Fakatava mustn't be what they want for their halfbacks.
If the AB captain wasn't manhandled at a ruck we wouldn't be having this discussion.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:
If the AB captain wasn't manhandled at a ruck we wouldn't be having this discussion.
in fairness, if TJP hadn't pissed around at the ruck and just lceared the ball he wouldn't have been there for ScoBa to fall on!
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing
He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.
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@KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens
@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens
He should be in the conversation. He's good. Both Hotham and Funaki had better seasons than Fakatava. They went with Hotham. No issues.
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@george33 What do you mean achieved?
Assuming Aaron Smith is floating somewhere around the countrywe're picking the sixth best halfback in the country.
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@Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.
@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.
He got groomed by the current coach, who likes players he picked. Simple.
