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All Blacks vs England 2

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    If our gameplan is to hurl the ball to DMac behind a retreating forward pack then perhaps then maybe pairing him with the halfback that's been doing that for the entire year with the Chiefs might be a good idea.

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      TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham

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        TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham

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        @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

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          @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

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          @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

          He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.

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            It's a cunning plan to have the Waikato region providing all of the AB halfbacks. 😉

            Fakatava mustn't be what they want for their halfbacks.

            If the AB captain wasn't manhandled at a ruck we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

              He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

              He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.

              yeah Probably the next best runner from the base behind Roigard, looking for something different than what they have I would guess.

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                It's a cunning plan to have the Waikato region providing all of the AB halfbacks. 😉

                Fakatava mustn't be what they want for their halfbacks.

                If the AB captain wasn't manhandled at a ruck we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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                @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                If the AB captain wasn't manhandled at a ruck we wouldn't be having this discussion.

                in fairness, if TJP hadn't pissed around at the ruck and just lceared the ball he wouldn't have been there for ScoBa to fall on!

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

                  He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.

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                  @KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens

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                    @Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing

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                    @george33 What do you mean achieved?

                    Assuming Aaron Smith is floating somewhere around the countrywe're picking the sixth best halfback in the country.

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                      @KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens

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                      @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens

                      He should be in the conversation. He's good. Both Hotham and Funaki had better seasons than Fakatava. They went with Hotham. No issues.

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                        @george33 What do you mean achieved?

                        Assuming Aaron Smith is floating somewhere around the countrywe're picking the sixth best halfback in the country.

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                        @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

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                          @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

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                          @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                          He got groomed by the current coach, who likes players he picked. Simple.

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                            @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

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                            @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                            This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

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                              @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                              This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

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                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                              This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

                              It is, on that basis Reece ,Taylor,Newell,Barrett etc should not be in the AB's.

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                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                                This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

                                It is, on that basis Reece ,Taylor,Newell,Barrett etc should not be in the AB's.

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                                @Chris Not sure how anyone who wasn't a Crusader (or a Jaapie) played in the World Cup final last year! 🙂

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                                  They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

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                                    They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

                                    Exactly.

                                    He's the fifth choice!

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

                                      Exactly.

                                      He's the fifth choice!

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                                      @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

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                                        @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

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                                        @george33 who? i would argue someone like Fakatava was the "safe" option as has been in and amoungst the AB a lot before, they opted to bring in someone new presumably based on liking what they see

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                                          @george33 who? i would argue someone like Fakatava was the "safe" option as has been in and amoungst the AB a lot before, they opted to bring in someone new presumably based on liking what they see

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                                          @Kiwiwomble I definitely rate, Fakatava, Funaki ahead of him, Funaki was the form 9 until Christie returned, if we don't go on super form for backups what's the point of it? just because U have coached him Before at super , well this ain't super look around razor and co , U might be surprised or is this just another us v them situation, any way that's my opinion on it.

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