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All Blacks vs England 2

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    BerniesCorner
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    Change Savea's position at least for half a game. 6 or 7
    Sititi - Ratima - DMac. You know it makes sense.

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    • D Dodge

      Gutted, good first XV but our bench is weak and our accuracy is terrible when in good positions at the moment and it’s cost us in both tests. We desperately need to find a tight head from somewhere.

      All Blacks did what they do, scrum half change was critical, Barret was class. Opportunity missed but I’m looking forward to the November test.

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      sparky
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      @Dodge said in All Blacks vs England 2:

      We desperately need to find a tight head from somewhere.

      You're not having any of ours.😉

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      • F Frank

        We have no loose forward ball carrier, and England had two in Cunningham-Smith and Earls.
        I'd bench Savea to cover 7 and 8 to be used as an impact player and start Sititi at 8
        Papalii is an 80 minute player.
        6??? - Blackadder or Vaii

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        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        We have no loose forward ball carrier.

        If only Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu were NZ eligible.

        Oh yes, they are. Silly me!

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        • chimoausC chimoaus

          Also look at how the Wallabies are playing under Schmidt. He has had way less time than Razor and the differences are obvious. I realise it’s just Wales but I had hoped to see Razors blueprint but I’m just seeing a rehash of Fosters issues.

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          Machpants
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          @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          He has had way less time than Razor

          um, what? ozzie teams were out early he's had a fortnight or more headstart

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          • F Frank

            @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Finau has had a pair of quiet tests to start, but happy to give him more time... not sure Sititi is ready yet to be your monster number eight, selectors don't like Sotutu, so options are a bit limited.

            Sititi is the only hard running loose forward we have in the squad.
            Finau is waaaaaaaaay off the pace.

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            Old Samurai Jack
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            @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Finau has had a pair of quiet tests to start, but happy to give him more time... not sure Sititi is ready yet to be your monster number eight, selectors don't like Sotutu, so options are a bit limited.

            Sititi is the only hard running loose forward we have in the squad.
            Finau is waaaaaaaaay off the pace.

            Can someone go back and get comments for the start of the careers of practically every decent modern 6 the ABs have ever had (Collins/ Kaino esp.). Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there. Papalii has got increasingly better and Blackadder looks tailor-made for test rugby. Few like McCaw can just slot in(and he was supported by decent other loosies).

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            • TimT Tim

              No cards again. :thumbs_up:

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              sparky
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              @Tim And fewer penalties. Better discipline and tackling are already pluses from the early Foster era.

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                @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                We have no loose forward ball carrier.

                If only Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu were NZ eligible.

                Oh yes, they are. Silly me!

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                @sparky but one of them decided not to be available for ab selection, so why bother mentioning him?

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                  Frank
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                  #1412

                  Our pack is absolutely fucked without Scott Barrett.

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                  • O Old Samurai Jack

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    Finau has had a pair of quiet tests to start, but happy to give him more time... not sure Sititi is ready yet to be your monster number eight, selectors don't like Sotutu, so options are a bit limited.

                    Sititi is the only hard running loose forward we have in the squad.
                    Finau is waaaaaaaaay off the pace.

                    Can someone go back and get comments for the start of the careers of practically every decent modern 6 the ABs have ever had (Collins/ Kaino esp.). Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there. Papalii has got increasingly better and Blackadder looks tailor-made for test rugby. Few like McCaw can just slot in(and he was supported by decent other loosies).

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                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                    But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

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                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                      But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

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                      Mr Fish
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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                      But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

                      No, no, you don't understand. Razor explicitly told Akira at the start of the season that he was never going to be selected to play for the All Blacks, regardless of how he played this year 🙄

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                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                        Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                        But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

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                        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                        Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                        But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

                        I hope he negotiated in dollars.

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                        • C chucknz

                          @sparky but one of them decided not to be available for ab selection, so why bother mentioning him?

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                          sparky
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                          @chucknz Because he's ace.

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                            Machpants
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                            How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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                              Scott Barrett seems completely grounded in reality. He seems to recognize the enormity of the task. Razor has and will always be in his own world. Hopefully, a good combo!

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                                How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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                                  Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                  A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

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                                    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

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                                    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                    Except Finau.

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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                      A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                      Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                      Except Finau.

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                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                      A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                      Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                      Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct.

                                      He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        A wins a win and I love it, but that performance is a big loss versus boks

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                          A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                          Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                          Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct.

                                          He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

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                                          Old Samurai Jack
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                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                          A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                          Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                          Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct. He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

                                          You'll need an elephant gun to scare PSDT. Having said that the ABs have done well against the nasty Boks by innovating and collapsing their lungs.

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