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All Blacks vs England 2

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    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Finau has had a pair of quiet tests to start, but happy to give him more time... not sure Sititi is ready yet to be your monster number eight, selectors don't like Sotutu, so options are a bit limited.

    Sititi is the only hard running loose forward we have in the squad.
    Finau is waaaaaaaaay off the pace.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Finau has had a pair of quiet tests to start, but happy to give him more time... not sure Sititi is ready yet to be your monster number eight, selectors don't like Sotutu, so options are a bit limited.

    Sititi is the only hard running loose forward we have in the squad.
    Finau is waaaaaaaaay off the pace.

    Can someone go back and get comments for the start of the careers of practically every decent modern 6 the ABs have ever had (Collins/ Kaino esp.). Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there. Papalii has got increasingly better and Blackadder looks tailor-made for test rugby. Few like McCaw can just slot in(and he was supported by decent other loosies).

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    • TimT Tim

      No cards again. :thumbs_up:

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      @Tim And fewer penalties. Better discipline and tackling are already pluses from the early Foster era.

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        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        We have no loose forward ball carrier.

        If only Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu were NZ eligible.

        Oh yes, they are. Silly me!

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        @sparky but one of them decided not to be available for ab selection, so why bother mentioning him?

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          Our pack is absolutely fucked without Scott Barrett.

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          • O Old Samurai Jack

            @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Finau has had a pair of quiet tests to start, but happy to give him more time... not sure Sititi is ready yet to be your monster number eight, selectors don't like Sotutu, so options are a bit limited.

            Sititi is the only hard running loose forward we have in the squad.
            Finau is waaaaaaaaay off the pace.

            Can someone go back and get comments for the start of the careers of practically every decent modern 6 the ABs have ever had (Collins/ Kaino esp.). Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there. Papalii has got increasingly better and Blackadder looks tailor-made for test rugby. Few like McCaw can just slot in(and he was supported by decent other loosies).

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            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

            But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

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              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

              But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

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              Mr Fish
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              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

              But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

              No, no, you don't understand. Razor explicitly told Akira at the start of the season that he was never going to be selected to play for the All Blacks, regardless of how he played this year 🙄

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              • M Machpants

                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

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                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                Thought Akira had turned a corner so I think the selectors have missed a beat there

                But he is going overseas, there is no point investing in him now, at the start of a new regime. If he'd stayed or it was coming up to RWC yes. But he is persona non grata, he's takng the yen

                I hope he negotiated in dollars.

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                  @sparky but one of them decided not to be available for ab selection, so why bother mentioning him?

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                  sparky
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                  @chucknz Because he's ace.

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                    Machpants
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                    How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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                      Old Samurai Jack
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                      Scott Barrett seems completely grounded in reality. He seems to recognize the enormity of the task. Razor has and will always be in his own world. Hopefully, a good combo!

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                      • M Machpants

                        How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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                        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                        How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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                          frugby
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                          Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                          A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

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                          • F frugby

                            Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                            A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

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                            @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                            A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                            Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                            Except Finau.

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                              @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                              A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                              Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                              Except Finau.

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                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                              A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                              Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                              Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct.

                              He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

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                                Machpants
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                                A wins a win and I love it, but that performance is a big loss versus boks

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                  A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                  Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                  Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct.

                                  He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

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                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                  A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                  Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                  Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct. He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

                                  You'll need an elephant gun to scare PSDT. Having said that the ABs have done well against the nasty Boks by innovating and collapsing their lungs.

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                                    Frank
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                                    Ratima coming on shows we should try to play fast as our basic plan.
                                    Giving DMac a fraction more time to make decisions makes a world of difference.
                                    This is our rugby style and and natural advantage that Super Rugby gives us.
                                    So use it.

                                    Christie is lauded for his kicking and defence - as if the other halfbacks can't tackle or kick.

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                                      sparky
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                                      Nice to win the series but we've got two tests in South Africa and then England, Ireland and France away coming up.

                                      We will need to find a lot more by then.

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                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-v-england-players-ratings-how-the-all-blacks-rated-in-24-17-win/BPY5B2MVZFGIPKP25OBZXZ5S2E/

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                                          No Quarter
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                                          Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage of his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

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