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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    One thing that really annoys me with rugby is the idea that the bench role is 'lesser'.

    Beauden's excellent displays off the bench should be seen as vindication for selecting him as a bench option not automatically meaning he has to start.

    I think the likes of Ardie and Rieko could be excellent bench options but there's a stigma that they'll be 'dropped' to the bench.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    One thing that really annoys me with rugby is the idea that the bench role is 'lesser'.

    Beauden's excellent displays off the bench should be seen as vindication for selecting him as a bench option not automatically meaning he has to start.

    I think the likes of Ardie and Rieko could be excellent bench options but there's a stigma that they'll be 'dropped' to the bench.

    There's younger talent coming through. Why not utilize both via substitutions.

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      The dumbest people who post here are back in force. They don't watch Super Rugby but they have very strong opinions about the All Blacks.

      A big surprise is that Rieko Ioane is still public enemy number one. The morons who make references to centres from 50 years ago, and have learned nothing since then, still make worthless comments about Conrad Smith and the need for ... something completely unrelated to modern rugby and modern defences. Apparently there is some mystical "distributor" who can compensate for shit ball and no options with throwing miracle passes ... instead of the guy who makes more meters. If you are so stupid that you cannot remember the world cup from NOVEMBER 2023, then please stop posting.

      There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes. Please don't post the dumb shit - it's boring. If you are an old fool who doesn't watch much rugby or have the ability to recall games from the last 12 months, then maybe think about why the centre doesn't have good options against Felix Jones' defence.

      The Opta stats might resume when it's worth posting them.

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      • TimT Tim

        The dumbest people who post here are back in force. They don't watch Super Rugby but they have very strong opinions about the All Blacks.

        A big surprise is that Rieko Ioane is still public enemy number one. The morons who make references to centres from 50 years ago, and have learned nothing since then, still make worthless comments about Conrad Smith and the need for ... something completely unrelated to modern rugby and modern defences. Apparently there is some mystical "distributor" who can compensate for shit ball and no options with throwing miracle passes ... instead of the guy who makes more meters. If you are so stupid that you cannot remember the world cup from NOVEMBER 2023, then please stop posting.

        There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes. Please don't post the dumb shit - it's boring. If you are an old fool who doesn't watch much rugby or have the ability to recall games from the last 12 months, then maybe think about why the centre doesn't have good options against Felix Jones' defence.

        The Opta stats might resume when it's worth posting them.

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        @Tim bring back Leicester

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          Hey guys, I used to watch rugby in 1995, but I go to all the ABs games! I'm not a moron!

          Ardie should be 7! He's so good. He is mainly there to attack the fringes, but not tackle or hit rucks or ... fuck ... I am a moron.

          If you post like this then I hate you, you should not be allowed on the internet. Do I make myself clear.

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                • TimT Tim

                  The dumbest people who post here are back in force. They don't watch Super Rugby but they have very strong opinions about the All Blacks.

                  A big surprise is that Rieko Ioane is still public enemy number one. The morons who make references to centres from 50 years ago, and have learned nothing since then, still make worthless comments about Conrad Smith and the need for ... something completely unrelated to modern rugby and modern defences. Apparently there is some mystical "distributor" who can compensate for shit ball and no options with throwing miracle passes ... instead of the guy who makes more meters. If you are so stupid that you cannot remember the world cup from NOVEMBER 2023, then please stop posting.

                  There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes. Please don't post the dumb shit - it's boring. If you are an old fool who doesn't watch much rugby or have the ability to recall games from the last 12 months, then maybe think about why the centre doesn't have good options against Felix Jones' defence.

                  The Opta stats might resume when it's worth posting them.

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                  The dumbest people who post here are back in force. They don't watch Super Rugby but they have very strong opinions about the All Blacks.

                  A big surprise is that Rieko Ioane is still public enemy number one. The morons who make references to centres from 50 years ago, and have learned nothing since then, still make worthless comments about Conrad Smith and the need for ... something completely unrelated to modern rugby and modern defences. Apparently there is some mystical "distributor" who can compensate for shit ball and no options with throwing miracle passes ... instead of the guy who makes more meters. If you are so stupid that you cannot remember the world cup from NOVEMBER 2023, then please stop posting.

                  There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes. Please don't post the dumb shit - it's boring. If you are an old fool who doesn't watch much rugby or have the ability to recall games from the last 12 months, then maybe think about why the centre doesn't have good options against Felix Jones' defence.

                  The Opta stats might resume when it's worth posting them.

                  Ohh....the irony of you posting this....:face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out, Nonu

                    That's bizarrely a really clear memory but yeah no idea who posed it.

                    So it was probably me.

                    Lots of people didn't believe in Nonu for some time, his game was just a bit erratic. But with the benefit of time he ironed out all of his weaknesses and became awesome

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Lots of people didn't believe in Nonu for some time,

                    As I remember it Nonu always had his supporters. Including the AB coaches. But not as a wing where he started out with the Canes.

                    But some almost hated him. He had a casual attitude that even Hammond (a terrible Canes head coach) couldn't take.

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Lots of people didn't believe in Nonu for some time,

                      As I remember it Nonu always had his supporters. Including the AB coaches. But not as a wing where he started out with the Canes.

                      But some almost hated him. He had a casual attitude that even Hammond (a terrible Canes head coach) couldn't take.

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                      @Winger Hammett?

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                        • TimT Tim

                          The dumbest people who post here are back in force. They don't watch Super Rugby but they have very strong opinions about the All Blacks.

                          A big surprise is that Rieko Ioane is still public enemy number one. The morons who make references to centres from 50 years ago, and have learned nothing since then, still make worthless comments about Conrad Smith and the need for ... something completely unrelated to modern rugby and modern defences. Apparently there is some mystical "distributor" who can compensate for shit ball and no options with throwing miracle passes ... instead of the guy who makes more meters. If you are so stupid that you cannot remember the world cup from NOVEMBER 2023, then please stop posting.

                          There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes. Please don't post the dumb shit - it's boring. If you are an old fool who doesn't watch much rugby or have the ability to recall games from the last 12 months, then maybe think about why the centre doesn't have good options against Felix Jones' defence.

                          The Opta stats might resume when it's worth posting them.

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                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                          There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                          Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ - he is more important than Ardie to this team due to his size and impact on defence.

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                            There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                            Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ - he is more important than Ardie to this team due to his size and impact on defence.

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                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                            There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                            Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ.

                            Is this a @Tim ghost account ?

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                              There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                              Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ.

                              Is this a @Tim ghost account ?

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                              @MN5 How is he not the best loose forward in NZ?

                              He is our most effective LF on defense and most effective at the ruck, Ardie is only better ball in hand, Dalton is better in the tight and on defense - i thought this was the general consensus, no?

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                                Dalton has shit tits confirmed

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                                  Paps was great last weekend.
                                  Our biggest problem is ball carriers/ line breakers creating scoring opportunities. With time will improve. Early days.

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                                    Paps was great last weekend.
                                    Our biggest problem is ball carriers/ line breakers creating scoring opportunities. With time will improve. Early days.

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                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    Our biggest problem is ball carriers/ line breakers creating scoring opportunities.

                                    and here was me thinking loosies got selected for both sides of the ball work /sarc

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                                      @MN5 How is he not the best loose forward in NZ?

                                      He is our most effective LF on defense and most effective at the ruck, Ardie is only better ball in hand, Dalton is better in the tight and on defense - i thought this was the general consensus, no?

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                                      @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @MN5 How is he not the best loose forward in NZ?

                                      He is our most effective LF on defense and most effective at the ruck, Ardie is only better ball in hand, Dalton is better in the tight and on defense - i thought this was the general consensus, no?

                                      I thought Ethan Blackadder was ?

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                                      • D darylmitchell

                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                                        Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ - he is more important than Ardie to this team due to his size and impact on defence.

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                                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                                        Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ - he is more important than Ardie to this team due to his size and impact on defence.

                                        He was so good in that first test aye, falling off tackles at will.

                                        I give him credit, he played well in the second test but consistency would be great.

                                        Ardie obviously isn’t in form but when he is he’s by far our best despite what Timmy thinks. Go and watch the WC final if you need a reminder of that.

                                        And Finau, well I’ve barely noticed the guy in the first two tests.

                                        Bring back King Blackadder I’d say.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          There are still really interesting and insightful people who post here. I love this forum, even Papalii knockers post really good stuff sometimes.

                                          Papali'i knockers (if there is such thing) are far worse, the guy is comfortably the best loose forward in NZ - he is more important than Ardie to this team due to his size and impact on defence.

                                          He was so good in that first test aye, falling off tackles at will.

                                          I give him credit, he played well in the second test but consistency would be great.

                                          Ardie obviously isn’t in form but when he is he’s by far our best despite what Timmy thinks. Go and watch the WC final if you need a reminder of that.

                                          And Finau, well I’ve barely noticed the guy in the first two tests.

                                          Bring back King Blackadder I’d say.

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                                          Yeah yeah bro we know everyone loves Ardie for his cute little highlights reels, watch the Blues forwards led by Papali'i, Dalton actually wins the collisions outright and dominates the breakdown - his efforts on 'both sides of the ball' are simply unparalleled.

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