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Hurricanes 2025

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

    @Nogusta said in Hurricanes 2025:

    @Canes4life Ardie definitely plying his trade in Auckland next year.

    What’s your source? If he leaves he leaves, I’d just be interested to know where this is coming from. No inkling whatsoever in the media about it.

    Apparently Cam Roigard was definitely going back to Chiefs territory last year and that didn’t happen so I’ll believe it when I see it.

    If he goes to MP, I can deal with that. Auckland though, yuck.

    @Nogusta has good oil on things coming out of Auckland he is probably on the money with this .

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    @Chris I’m sure it’s true, I’m actually not too pissed off about it tbh. I feel like the Canes as a collective played better this year not having to rely on Ardie so much.

    At the end of the day if he goes then he goes. If his reason for leaving is because his brother was sacked by the Canes then it would be a little harder to stomach.

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      @Chris I’m sure it’s true, I’m actually not too pissed off about it tbh. I feel like the Canes as a collective played better this year not having to rely on Ardie so much.

      At the end of the day if he goes then he goes. If his reason for leaving is because his brother was sacked by the Canes then it would be a little harder to stomach.

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      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

      @Chris I’m sure it’s true, I’m actually not too pissed off about it tbh. I feel like the Canes as a collective played better this year not having to rely on Ardie so much.

      At the end of the day if he goes then he goes. If his reason for leaving is because his brother was sacked by the Canes then it would be a little harder to stomach.

      Yeah you have a lot of depth in the loose forwards, It probably means they develop better with longer careers left than Ardie has.
      I wouldn’t be pissed either if I was a canes fan.

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        So his last year as an all black too, that's a big call

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          So his last year as an all black too, that's a big call

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          @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

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            @Nogusta that's fucking craaaazy. How reliable is that?

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            @Yeetyaah @Canes4life if @Nogusta says it, you best believe it.

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              @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

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              @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

              @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

              How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

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                Herald been reading the fern again

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/all-blacks-vice-captain-ardie-savea-set-to-switch-super-rugby-teams-to-join-moana-pasifika/YAOAFX5EFRFAJGZBC6BYJIX4MA/

                All parties remain tight-lipped at this delicate stage but multiple sources have indicated to the Herald

                It's mentioned in two threads, therefore, multiple

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  If he goes to MP,

                  I could see this happening

                  It would eb a foolish move by Ardie though as he would be leaving excellent gym facilities. And leaving a potential winning team

                  Esp as he will be 31 next year.

                  And his last memory as a Cane will be a disallowed try against the Brumbies.

                  If he doesn’t want to be at the Canes so be it. We’ve got plenty of talent in the loose.

                  The irony is if he wants to build his brand in Auckland then why would you sign for the worst team in the comp? You might aswell go and play league for the Warriors, that will build massive hype.

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                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  @Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  If he goes to MP,

                  I could see this happening

                  It would eb a foolish move by Ardie though as he would be leaving excellent gym facilities. And leaving a potential winning team

                  Esp as he will be 31 next year.

                  And his last memory as a Cane will be a disallowed try against the Brumbies.

                  If he doesn’t want to be at the Canes so be it. We’ve got plenty of talent in the loose.

                  The irony is if he wants to build his brand in Auckland then why would you sign for the worst team in the comp? You might aswell go and play league for the Warriors, that will build massive hype.

                  Or could it be a case that this is his opportunity to give back to Samoan rugby. To inspire young Samoan kids and help solidify the future of Moana Pasifikia in Super Rugby. He may never get to play for the Samoan national side, and doing this is the next best thing. That he knows the Canes are in safe hands, and as one of the most high profile Samoan rugby players in the world that this is his way to help.

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                    Herald been reading the fern again

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/all-blacks-vice-captain-ardie-savea-set-to-switch-super-rugby-teams-to-join-moana-pasifika/YAOAFX5EFRFAJGZBC6BYJIX4MA/

                    All parties remain tight-lipped at this delicate stage but multiple sources have indicated to the Herald

                    It's mentioned in two threads, therefore, multiple

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                    @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

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                      It would be an historical moment for SR when a current high profile AB wasn't playing for one of the 5 NZ teams. However, I would feel bad for Inisi, who was one of MP's best this season.

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                        @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                        @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                        How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

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                        @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                        @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                        @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                        How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                        NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                        If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                          @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                          @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                          How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                          NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                          If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

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                          @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                          @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                          @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                          @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                          How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                          NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                          If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

                          Yeah I don't have a problem with it., Canes certainly have cover.

                          I forgot that, but yes I remember they were allowed 3 players, I think? As long as NZR aren't paying his wages when there. His game will go down hill imo, see the difference a season in Japan has made, with a poor team and resources (esp compared to new canes set up). I think he'll go the way of his bro, signed to NZ for a long time, not necessarily playing for ABs. Certainly will help MP, esp money and media's,but one Galactico does not make a team.

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                            @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                            @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                            @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                            @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                            How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                            NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                            If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

                            Yeah I don't have a problem with it., Canes certainly have cover.

                            I forgot that, but yes I remember they were allowed 3 players, I think? As long as NZR aren't paying his wages when there. His game will go down hill imo, see the difference a season in Japan has made, with a poor team and resources (esp compared to new canes set up). I think he'll go the way of his bro, signed to NZ for a long time, not necessarily playing for ABs. Certainly will help MP, esp money and media's,but one Galactico does not make a team.

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                            taniwharugby
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                            @Machpants doesnt NZR contribute to MP anyway?

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                              @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

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                              @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                              @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                              He already won a title with the Canes, (I'm pretty sure he was playing when they finally did it)

                              I'd rather he move to the Blues than the Moana. He'd be taking up space for potential Samoan/Tongan players.

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                                @Machpants doesnt NZR contribute to MP anyway?

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                                @taniwharugby Yes they hold their license.

                                @mimic don't agree. Moana are allowed 3 non eligible pacific players in their team, so why not use him? The young Samoan and Tongan internationals could also learn a thing or 2 from him, so I only see it as a win for them.

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                                  @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                  @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                                  He already won a title with the Canes, (I'm pretty sure he was playing when they finally did it)

                                  I'd rather he move to the Blues than the Moana. He'd be taking up space for potential Samoan/Tongan players.

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                                  @mimic he was there. He was also injured in the 2015 semi final which ruled him out of the final that year aswell.

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                                    I think it's time the Hurricanes CEO walked. Losing two World Rugby Player's of the Year in your tenure is inexcusable.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

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                                      @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                      @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                                      If he is moving to MP, I don't want him at the Canes next year. If you're going to move, do it now. Staying for one more year means he's just getting in the way of other players that are committed to the club long term and having him there will only muddy the waters.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                        @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                                        If he is moving to MP, I don't want him at the Canes next year. If you're going to move, do it now. Staying for one more year means he's just getting in the way of other players that are committed to the club long term and having him there will only muddy the waters.

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                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                        @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                        @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                                        If he is moving to MP, I don't want him at the Canes next year. If you're going to move, do it now. Staying for one more year means he's just getting in the way of other players that are committed to the club long term and having him there will only muddy the waters.

                                        I have no problem with him going , and playing until he does. We all knew Moorby was off this year and I had no probs with him playing and contributing to team, and same with Ardie.

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                                          I think it's time the Hurricanes CEO walked. Losing two World Rugby Player's of the Year in your tenure is inexcusable.

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                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                          I think it's time the Hurricanes CEO walked. Losing two World Rugby Player's of the Year in your tenure is inexcusable.

                                          Yet the Hurricanes player development system looks top draw. They have the best training facility in the country. Were one of the top three teams in the comp, any team could have won. If the players left due to purely rugby reasons, fine have a go. But, Barrett left because his missus told him so, and Savea from the sound of things wants to support his heritage. A good club doesn't stand in the way of players leaving for non-rugby reasons. Especially when they can just open the draw and have quality players available.

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