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    @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

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    @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

    @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

    How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

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      Herald been reading the fern again

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/all-blacks-vice-captain-ardie-savea-set-to-switch-super-rugby-teams-to-join-moana-pasifika/YAOAFX5EFRFAJGZBC6BYJIX4MA/

      All parties remain tight-lipped at this delicate stage but multiple sources have indicated to the Herald

      It's mentioned in two threads, therefore, multiple

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

        If he goes to MP,

        I could see this happening

        It would eb a foolish move by Ardie though as he would be leaving excellent gym facilities. And leaving a potential winning team

        Esp as he will be 31 next year.

        And his last memory as a Cane will be a disallowed try against the Brumbies.

        If he doesn’t want to be at the Canes so be it. We’ve got plenty of talent in the loose.

        The irony is if he wants to build his brand in Auckland then why would you sign for the worst team in the comp? You might aswell go and play league for the Warriors, that will build massive hype.

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        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

        If he goes to MP,

        I could see this happening

        It would eb a foolish move by Ardie though as he would be leaving excellent gym facilities. And leaving a potential winning team

        Esp as he will be 31 next year.

        And his last memory as a Cane will be a disallowed try against the Brumbies.

        If he doesn’t want to be at the Canes so be it. We’ve got plenty of talent in the loose.

        The irony is if he wants to build his brand in Auckland then why would you sign for the worst team in the comp? You might aswell go and play league for the Warriors, that will build massive hype.

        Or could it be a case that this is his opportunity to give back to Samoan rugby. To inspire young Samoan kids and help solidify the future of Moana Pasifikia in Super Rugby. He may never get to play for the Samoan national side, and doing this is the next best thing. That he knows the Canes are in safe hands, and as one of the most high profile Samoan rugby players in the world that this is his way to help.

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          Herald been reading the fern again

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/all-blacks-vice-captain-ardie-savea-set-to-switch-super-rugby-teams-to-join-moana-pasifika/YAOAFX5EFRFAJGZBC6BYJIX4MA/

          All parties remain tight-lipped at this delicate stage but multiple sources have indicated to the Herald

          It's mentioned in two threads, therefore, multiple

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          @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

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            Bovidae
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            It would be an historical moment for SR when a current high profile AB wasn't playing for one of the 5 NZ teams. However, I would feel bad for Inisi, who was one of MP's best this season.

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              @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

              @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

              How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

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              @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

              @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

              @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

              How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

              NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
              If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

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              • Dan54D Dan54

                @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

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                Machpants
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                @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

                Yeah I don't have a problem with it., Canes certainly have cover.

                I forgot that, but yes I remember they were allowed 3 players, I think? As long as NZR aren't paying his wages when there. His game will go down hill imo, see the difference a season in Japan has made, with a poor team and resources (esp compared to new canes set up). I think he'll go the way of his bro, signed to NZ for a long time, not necessarily playing for ABs. Certainly will help MP, esp money and media's,but one Galactico does not make a team.

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                  @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  @george33 said in Hurricanes 2025:

                  @Machpants He is still available for AB selection

                  How, MP is not an NZ SR team, point me to where the rules were changed

                  NZR said when MP were formed ABs could play for them without losing eligibility.
                  If it did turn out to be true as a Canes man I reasonably relaxed , good fo MP, and we got cover at Canes.

                  Yeah I don't have a problem with it., Canes certainly have cover.

                  I forgot that, but yes I remember they were allowed 3 players, I think? As long as NZR aren't paying his wages when there. His game will go down hill imo, see the difference a season in Japan has made, with a poor team and resources (esp compared to new canes set up). I think he'll go the way of his bro, signed to NZ for a long time, not necessarily playing for ABs. Certainly will help MP, esp money and media's,but one Galactico does not make a team.

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @Machpants doesnt NZR contribute to MP anyway?

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

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                    @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                    @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                    He already won a title with the Canes, (I'm pretty sure he was playing when they finally did it)

                    I'd rather he move to the Blues than the Moana. He'd be taking up space for potential Samoan/Tongan players.

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                      @Machpants doesnt NZR contribute to MP anyway?

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                      @taniwharugby Yes they hold their license.

                      @mimic don't agree. Moana are allowed 3 non eligible pacific players in their team, so why not use him? The young Samoan and Tongan internationals could also learn a thing or 2 from him, so I only see it as a win for them.

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                      • mimicM mimic

                        @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                        @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                        He already won a title with the Canes, (I'm pretty sure he was playing when they finally did it)

                        I'd rather he move to the Blues than the Moana. He'd be taking up space for potential Samoan/Tongan players.

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                        @mimic he was there. He was also injured in the 2015 semi final which ruled him out of the final that year aswell.

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                          I think it's time the Hurricanes CEO walked. Losing two World Rugby Player's of the Year in your tenure is inexcusable.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

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                            @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                            @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                            If he is moving to MP, I don't want him at the Canes next year. If you're going to move, do it now. Staying for one more year means he's just getting in the way of other players that are committed to the club long term and having him there will only muddy the waters.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                              @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                              If he is moving to MP, I don't want him at the Canes next year. If you're going to move, do it now. Staying for one more year means he's just getting in the way of other players that are committed to the club long term and having him there will only muddy the waters.

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                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                              @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                              @Machpants It really wouldn't surprise me if Ardie Savea eventually moves to Moana Pacifika, but I suspect he wants to win a title with the Canes first.

                              If he is moving to MP, I don't want him at the Canes next year. If you're going to move, do it now. Staying for one more year means he's just getting in the way of other players that are committed to the club long term and having him there will only muddy the waters.

                              I have no problem with him going , and playing until he does. We all knew Moorby was off this year and I had no probs with him playing and contributing to team, and same with Ardie.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                I think it's time the Hurricanes CEO walked. Losing two World Rugby Player's of the Year in your tenure is inexcusable.

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                I think it's time the Hurricanes CEO walked. Losing two World Rugby Player's of the Year in your tenure is inexcusable.

                                Yet the Hurricanes player development system looks top draw. They have the best training facility in the country. Were one of the top three teams in the comp, any team could have won. If the players left due to purely rugby reasons, fine have a go. But, Barrett left because his missus told him so, and Savea from the sound of things wants to support his heritage. A good club doesn't stand in the way of players leaving for non-rugby reasons. Especially when they can just open the draw and have quality players available.

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                                  Ardie's confirmed as going.

                                  This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.

                                  Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    Ardie's confirmed as going.

                                    This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.

                                    Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!

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                                    @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                    Ardie's confirmed as going.

                                    This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.

                                    Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!

                                    Ardies turns 31 this year. So, not a huge loss he would been 5 years back. MP might get 1 or 2 years before age catches up

                                    Hopefully MP can attract some other big names, Maybe RM if he returns

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                                    • WingerW Winger

                                      @sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:

                                      Ardie's confirmed as going.

                                      This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.

                                      Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!

                                      Ardies turns 31 this year. So, not a huge loss he would been 5 years back. MP might get 1 or 2 years before age catches up

                                      Hopefully MP can attract some other big names, Maybe RM if he returns

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                                      @Winger Yeah our loosies didn’t seem to struggle without him. It was also good to not seem to always rely on him to carry the team.

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                                        Nice statement from Avan Lee.

                                        https://twitter.com/hurricanesrugby/status/1814890768705990772

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                                          Also if it meant keeping Julian and starting him. It's not worth it.

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