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All Blacks 2024

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    pakman
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    Not sure if posted elsewhere:

    Seems two backs, with versatility a positive. Can they squeeze in another front rower, at the expense of an extra loosie and lock?

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      It really would be odd to select Paps, Cane, Niggles AND LJ. About as much variation as Richie Benaud’s trousers.

      Logic would suggest one of those misses out. Another genuine 6 or 8 on the other hand would be most welcome.

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      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

      It really would be odd to select Paps, Cane, Niggles AND LJ. About as much variation as Richie Benaud’s trousers.

      Logic would suggest one of those misses out. Another genuine 6 or 8 on the other hand would be most welcome.

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        I recall Beauden and DMac playing really well together in the lead up to the RWC19, but then DMac got that long term injury and it became Mo'unga and BB which didn't work nearly as well.

        Fast forward 5 years and DMac is a much better player. BB is getting old but shown he is still quick enough to be dangerous and is finding some good form.

        The big surprise for me is Perofeta, and how well he has gone. I think he and BB should alternate the 15 jumper / bench spot, and Jordan should slot into 14 again with Clarke on the left.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          All Blacks to play Ireland at Soldier Field, Chicago in 2025: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350351047/all-blacks-and-ireland-are-poised-meet-again-chicago-2025

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          @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

          All Blacks to play Ireland at Soldier Field, Chicago in 2025: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350351047/all-blacks-and-ireland-are-poised-meet-again-chicago-2025

          Oh thats awesome!
          I will be for sure going again.

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            Out of interest, who replaced Greg Feek as the AB scrum coach?

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            • sparkyS sparky

              All Blacks to play Ireland at Soldier Field, Chicago in 2025: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350351047/all-blacks-and-ireland-are-poised-meet-again-chicago-2025

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              @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

              All Blacks to play Ireland at Soldier Field, Chicago in 2025: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350351047/all-blacks-and-ireland-are-poised-meet-again-chicago-2025

              I would imagine razor will take it a bit more seriously than last times carnival feeling

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                @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                All Blacks to play Ireland at Soldier Field, Chicago in 2025: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350351047/all-blacks-and-ireland-are-poised-meet-again-chicago-2025

                I would imagine razor will take it a bit more seriously than last times carnival feeling

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                @Machpants That's interesting, Mrs has indicated perhaps a trip to USA next year (wats to see Grand Canyon) should be on radar. We doing a trip to Europe in about 7 weeks, kind of celebrating my 70th birthday, and she thinks we need to do something next year for hers! Chicago and AB test included may jusy get my juices going, also Chicago has got a bit of Blues music I believe!

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                • P pakman

                  Out of interest, who replaced Greg Feek as the AB scrum coach?

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Out of interest, who replaced Greg Feek as the AB scrum coach?

                  Ryan has taken over that role.

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                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Out of interest, who replaced Greg Feek as the AB scrum coach?

                    Ryan has taken over that role.

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                    @Bovidae seems to be doing alright!

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      If we take Cane and Jordan as given, then to me another lock is a must, so Lord or Darry. The latter is fit, and heavier, so would get my vote, with Lord on standby.
                      The obvious area to shore up is at 12, and Lam would be worth a look. Tupaea and Poihipi would also have supporters, given Havili is fairly long in the tooth.
                      My roughy would be to bring in Suafoa, and let LJ go. He's Kaino sized, a lineout target, who can cover lock, and has proven his intestinal fortitude in spades.

                      What’s wrong with Jordie and ALB?

                      For me we have two test made 2nd 5s ready and made.

                      As another Ferner has commented, Jordie is the only big, straight running 2nd five in the squad. I really like ALB, but after a hard hitting debut against the Boks he’s been a 12 who uses footwork rather than running hard lines. I think at test level he’s more effective at 13.

                      See I don’t mind that sort of 12 when we have a 13 that plays direct like Proctor. A combination of different attributes.

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      If we take Cane and Jordan as given, then to me another lock is a must, so Lord or Darry. The latter is fit, and heavier, so would get my vote, with Lord on standby.
                      The obvious area to shore up is at 12, and Lam would be worth a look. Tupaea and Poihipi would also have supporters, given Havili is fairly long in the tooth.
                      My roughy would be to bring in Suafoa, and let LJ go. He's Kaino sized, a lineout target, who can cover lock, and has proven his intestinal fortitude in spades.

                      What’s wrong with Jordie and ALB?

                      For me we have two test made 2nd 5s ready and made.

                      As another Ferner has commented, Jordie is the only big, straight running 2nd five in the squad. I really like ALB, but after a hard hitting debut against the Boks he’s been a 12 who uses footwork rather than running hard lines. I think at test level he’s more effective at 13.

                      See I don’t mind that sort of 12 when we have a 13 that plays direct like Proctor. A combination of different attributes.

                      its a bit scary that the idea of judging players on how they will work with others around them to make the...."team"...rather than viewing each position individually.....is still so radical for lots of people

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        I recall Beauden and DMac playing really well together in the lead up to the RWC19, but then DMac got that long term injury and it became Mo'unga and BB which didn't work nearly as well.

                        Fast forward 5 years and DMac is a much better player. BB is getting old but shown he is still quick enough to be dangerous and is finding some good form.

                        The big surprise for me is Perofeta, and how well he has gone. I think he and BB should alternate the 15 jumper / bench spot, and Jordan should slot into 14 again with Clarke on the left.

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                        reprobate
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                        @No-Quarter Barrett and McKenzie worked, Mounga and McKenzie worked.
                        Barrett and Mounga did not work.
                        I don't think that was a coincidence. McKenzie is the guy who looks to create for others.

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                          Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

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                            Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

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                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

                            why would he?

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                              One of the side effects of Mo'unga returning may be the loss of DMac overseas

                              DMac made it clear that Mo'unga departing was a factor in him re-signing 24/25

                              A lot of water to go under the bridge until then of course

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                                @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

                                why would he?

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

                                why would he?

                                He's been doing promotional work in AB gear this year. Is he currently on the payroll? It's very unusual.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

                                  why would he?

                                  He's been doing promotional work in AB gear this year. Is he currently on the payroll? It's very unusual.

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                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

                                  why would he?

                                  He's been doing promotional work in AB gear this year. Is he currently on the payroll? It's very unusual.

                                  he has? the fuck? are we being retconned in to believing this guy was Dan Carter? Toddle off back to Japan champ and practice your kicking.

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                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    Wonder if Richie Mo may be hanging around the Abs this year with an off field role like he had in Origin 3 with the Blues.

                                    why would he?

                                    He's been doing promotional work in AB gear this year. Is he currently on the payroll? It's very unusual.

                                    he has? the fuck? are we being retconned in to believing this guy was Dan Carter? Toddle off back to Japan champ and practice your kicking.

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                                    @mariner4life

                                    Yeah he's been in a few things. There was a NZR video a few days ago of him, Tele'a, Ioane & Savea visiting CKB and giving some of the fighters AB gear etc

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                                      reprobate
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                                      McKenzie is just better than him. He might be worth a bench spot as Beauden slows down with age I guess.

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                                        Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

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                                          Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

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                                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

                                          Reminder: 70% win record with 56 caps

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