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All Blacks 2024

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

    It just feels wrong you comparing DH and Akira. The latter had a bigger boat and he left far more in his wake...

    To some of you guys, maybe.

    Dave played 27 tests, 17 as a starter.

    Akira played 21 tests, 15 as a starter.

    Akira had a much bigger fan base on the fern it has to be said.

    But he doesn't play for Ta$man, mind...

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

    It just feels wrong you comparing DH and Akira. The latter had a bigger boat and he left far more in his wake...

    To some of you guys, maybe.

    Dave played 27 tests, 17 as a starter.

    Akira played 21 tests, 15 as a starter.

    Akira had a much bigger fan base on the fern it has to be said.

    But he doesn't play for Ta$man, mind...

    If you want to go there, let's start counting medals.

    But, let's be very clear that you started the comparisons!!!

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

      Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

      Reminder: 70% win record with 56 caps

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      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:

      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

      Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

      Reminder: 70% win record with 56 caps

      Less than the historical average.

      I expect better.

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      • boobooB booboo

        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:

        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

        Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

        Reminder: 70% win record with 56 caps

        Less than the historical average.

        I expect better.

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        #4980

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:

        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

        Would not be surprising, very possible someone may buy his contract out. I suspect he will be working behind the scenes in camp.

        Reminder: 70% win record with 56 caps

        Less than the historical average.

        I expect better.

        If you're looking to find fault. πŸ™‚

        If you're looking for a positive slant; Richie played in 14 AB losses:

        6 when he came off the bench;
        3 more when we got red cards as a significant contributing factor
        5 when you could point to his play as a starter as a substantive contributing factor.

        e.g. vs Ireland

        Richie played 7 times.

        He won both times when he started (both in RWC knock out games) and once when he came off the bench.

        He lost four times off the bench.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          I reckon you guys might find our halfback depth is about as good as the loose forward depth that a couple of months ago was being written about how blessed we are with amazing depth in a new generation of loose forwards.

          Roigard has started two tests - vs Namibia and Uruguay + 3 from the bench
          Fakatava - two from the bench
          Ratima - started vs Fiji +one off the bench
          Hotham - one off the bench
          Funaki - none - and Stern Vern reverted to Christie as soon as he had him available.

          One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

          There's plenty of time to develop these young guys and bring them through with the training wheels of having them paired with TJ and Christie - firstly coming off the bench, then starting vs weaker opposition and then starting against Tier 1.

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          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

          One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

          Finlay is the glaring exception to this rule

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

            It just feels wrong you comparing DH and Akira. The latter had a bigger boat and he left far more in his wake...

            To some of you guys, maybe.

            Dave played 27 tests, 17 as a starter.

            Akira played 21 tests, 15 as a starter.

            Akira had a much bigger fan base on the fern it has to be said.

            But he doesn't play for Ta$man, mind...

            If you want to go there, let's start counting medals.

            But, let's be very clear that you started the comparisons!!!

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            nostrildamus
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            #4982

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

            It just feels wrong you comparing DH and Akira. The latter had a bigger boat and he left far more in his wake...

            To some of you guys, maybe.

            Dave played 27 tests, 17 as a starter.

            Akira played 21 tests, 15 as a starter.

            Akira had a much bigger fan base on the fern it has to be said.

            But he doesn't play for Ta$man, mind...

            If you want to go there, let's start counting medals.

            But, let's be very clear that you started the comparisons!!!

            Ok let us compare 2024 Super Rugby medals..

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            • M Machpants

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

              All Blacks to play Ireland at Soldier Field, Chicago in 2025: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350351047/all-blacks-and-ireland-are-poised-meet-again-chicago-2025

              I would imagine razor will take it a bit more seriously than last times carnival feeling

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              @Machpants Generally are US AB tickets very expensive.
              The prices in UK for AB games are very expensive now. 4 tickets viagogo Β£2500 AB v England category D tickets

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                #4984

                If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

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                • P pakman

                  If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                  Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                  If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                  Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                  If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

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                  • M Mr Fish

                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                    If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                    Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                    If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

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                    #4986

                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                    If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                    Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                    If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

                    To keep the oppo guessing?

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                    • P pakman

                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                      Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                      If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

                      To keep the oppo guessing?

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                      Mr Fish
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                      #4987

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                      If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                      Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                      If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

                      To keep the oppo guessing?

                      I think it just fits the schedule. They've got to set time aside for media stuff etc. Makes more sense to have a bit of extra leeway.

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                        Not to distract from the sevens?

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                          pakman
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                          Contract negotiations?

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                          • M Mr Fish

                            @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                            If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                            Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                            If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

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                            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                            If the All Black cabinet is meeting Wednesday/Thursday to discuss TRC squad why is the naming not until Sunday?

                            Is there some important rugby on Friday and Saturday which we don't know about? NPC doesn't start for three weeks?

                            If the All Blacks selectors decide their team on Tuesday, why do they always name it on a Thursday?

                            I thought that was when first team run was, sometimes they will do it Monday I thought. But obviously have to see how players have pulled up after weekend games, and then run them as a team for rest of week.

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                            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                              @Machpants Generally are US AB tickets very expensive.
                              The prices in UK for AB games are very expensive now. 4 tickets viagogo Β£2500 AB v England category D tickets

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                              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Machpants Generally are US AB tickets very expensive.
                              The prices in UK for AB games are very expensive now. 4 tickets viagogo Β£2500 AB v England category D tickets

                              The fuck?? !!!

                              That’s outrageous

                              I bought 5 tickets to the Bled here in Sydney for A$400 the other day

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                              • voodooV voodoo

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

                                Finlay is the glaring exception to this rule

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                                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

                                Finlay is the glaring exception to this rule

                                Actually, Finlay played a central role in me realising this. πŸ™‚

                                The first year the Mako won the title (2019) we had Finlay labouring away at halfback and a Japanese guy called Uchida who looked like an absolute gun on the bench.

                                We couldn't understand why he wasn't starting.

                                When Uchida finally got a start he was poor and struggled - and after that we were happier with Finlay.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

                                  Finlay is the glaring exception to this rule

                                  Actually, Finlay played a central role in me realising this. πŸ™‚

                                  The first year the Mako won the title (2019) we had Finlay labouring away at halfback and a Japanese guy called Uchida who looked like an absolute gun on the bench.

                                  We couldn't understand why he wasn't starting.

                                  When Uchida finally got a start he was poor and struggled - and after that we were happier with Finlay.

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                                  Nepia
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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

                                  Finlay is the glaring exception to this rule

                                  Actually, Finlay played a central role in me realising this. πŸ™‚

                                  The first year the Mako won the title (2019) we had Finlay labouring away at halfback and a Japanese guy called Uchida who looked like an absolute gun on the bench.

                                  We couldn't understand why he wasn't starting.

                                  When Uchida finally got a start he was poor and struggled - and after that we were happier with Finlay.

                                  Cool, so Razor just needs to bring a halfback up from the Heartland Cup, play him for a test, and then we'll all be wishing for the Ginga ...

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @voodoo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    One thing that is very apparent e.g. by watching the rotation of Hall and Drummond at the Crusaders - is how much easier it is (and how much better they look) for halfbacks to come off the bench.

                                    Finlay is the glaring exception to this rule

                                    Actually, Finlay played a central role in me realising this. πŸ™‚

                                    The first year the Mako won the title (2019) we had Finlay labouring away at halfback and a Japanese guy called Uchida who looked like an absolute gun on the bench.

                                    We couldn't understand why he wasn't starting.

                                    When Uchida finally got a start he was poor and struggled - and after that we were happier with Finlay.

                                    Cool, so Razor just needs to bring a halfback up from the Heartland Cup, play him for a test, and then we'll all be wishing for the Ginga ...

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                                    @Nepia No need.

                                    You've already got two Mako halfbacks in the squad. πŸ™‚

                                    Don't give Finlay the boot until you've given Noah a few test starts and he's proven he's really up to it.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Nepia No need.

                                      You've already got two Mako halfbacks in the squad. πŸ™‚

                                      Don't give Finlay the boot until you've given Noah a few test starts and he's proven he's really up to it.

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                                      Nepia
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                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Nepia No need.

                                      You've already got two Mako halfbacks in the squad. πŸ™‚

                                      Don't give Finlay the boot until you've given Noah a few test starts and he's proven he's really up to it.

                                      I'm not a huge fan of Noah but happy to give the Ginga the boot for him. I wouldn't want to deprive Ta$man of his services for the NPC.

                                      I didn't know you'd bought the Waikato halfback down on behalf of the Crusaders.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Nepia No need.

                                        You've already got two Mako halfbacks in the squad. πŸ™‚

                                        Don't give Finlay the boot until you've given Noah a few test starts and he's proven he's really up to it.

                                        I'm not a huge fan of Noah but happy to give the Ginga the boot for him. I wouldn't want to deprive Ta$man of his services for the NPC.

                                        I didn't know you'd bought the Waikato halfback down on behalf of the Crusaders.

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                                        @Nepia He's about to have his 4th year with the Mako!

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @Nepia He's about to have his 4th year with the Mako!

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                                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Nepia He's about to have his 4th year with the Mako!

                                          Shows how observant I am. I thought he was only two years out of school. πŸ™‚

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