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All Blacks 2024

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    The opposition likes a Havili pass too!

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    • M Mr Fish

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

      I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.

      far out short memories people. Havili looked great at 12 against 'lighter' teams, but got smoked when the physicality went up. He hasn't changed. You'll get the same outcome.

      I know I've said this before and pretty much everyone has disagreed, but IMO Havili isn't bad against more physical teams, he's bad when he's used as a battering ram against more physical teams. I'd like to think Razor is smarter than that.

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      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

      I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.

      far out short memories people. Havili looked great at 12 against 'lighter' teams, but got smoked when the physicality went up. He hasn't changed. You'll get the same outcome.

      I know I've said this before and pretty much everyone has disagreed, but IMO Havili isn't bad against more physical teams, he's bad when he's used as a battering ram against more physical teams. I'd like to think Razor is smarter than that.

      When the team got smoked and ran round like headless chooks, Havilli seemed to shoulder most of the blame. Wrong game plan for the wrong player. Not advocating for Havilli at all (form doesn't justify that esp. with JB & ALB in the mix) but a handy squad member with experience.

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        The media is hyping Proctor quite a bit.
        Desperate, as they are, for a Conrad Smith style center.
        It all started from Justin Marshall and others have got on the bandwagon.
        It's bloody good for Reiko (and by extension the team) to feel the heat though, and I hope he can raise his game accordingly.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          nah, watching the incumbent get dropped will send the Blues contingent off the edge far more than Proctor not getting his call up.

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          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

          nah, watching the incumbent get dropped will send the Blues contingent off the edge far more than Proctor not getting his call up.

          Basically, just pick as many Crusaders and Chiefs as possible.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

            nah, watching the incumbent get dropped will send the Blues contingent off the edge far more than Proctor not getting his call up.

            Basically, just pick as many Crusaders and Chiefs as possible.

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

            Basically, just pick as many Crusaders and Chiefs as possible.

            Picking DMc hopefully won't trigger anyone. Picking Jordan on the wing likely won't either.

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            • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

              Basically, just pick as many Crusaders and Chiefs as possible.

              Picking DMc hopefully won't trigger anyone. Picking Jordan on the wing likely won't either.

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              @Chester-Draws My comment is less about the players and more about the fans who are most easily triggered!

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                nah, watching the incumbent get dropped will send the Blues contingent off the edge far more than Proctor not getting his call up.

                Basically, just pick as many Crusaders and Chiefs as possible.

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                #5199

                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                nah, watching the incumbent get dropped will send the Blues contingent off the edge far more than Proctor not getting his call up.

                Basically, just pick as many Crusaders and Chiefs as possible.

                They don't even have to be match-hardened or 100% fit.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  given the squad, what would be the team to guarantee the most melts on here?

                  EdG
                  Taylor
                  Lomax
                  Patty T
                  Darry
                  Blackadder
                  Cane
                  Jacobson
                  TJP
                  DMac
                  Telea
                  ALB
                  Proctor
                  Jordan
                  Perofeta

                  Bell
                  Newell
                  Williams
                  Finau
                  DP
                  Hotham
                  Havili
                  BBarrett

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  given the squad, what would be the team to guarantee the most melts on here?

                  Starting G.Bell, Blackadder, Hotham, Havili.

                  I feel this day will come sooner rather than later and when that day comes I can not wait to jump on here and be amused😂

                  Just for laughs, an injury to the midfield and calling up McLeod or Ennor into the squad would top it off.

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                    #5201

                    9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                    10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                    11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                    12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                    13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                    14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                    15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                      10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                      11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                      12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                      13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                      14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                      15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                      9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                      10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                      11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                      12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                      13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                      14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                      15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

                      Ha, that’s only the backs too. Do the forwards now !!!!

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                        9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                        10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                        11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                        12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                        13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                        14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                        15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

                        Ha, that’s only the backs too. Do the forwards now !!!!

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                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                        9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                        10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                        11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                        12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                        13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                        14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                        15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

                        Ha, that’s only the backs too. Do the forwards now !!!!

                        there was a sneaky dig at a Blues forward in there (or a dig at his fans).

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                          9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                          10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                          11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                          12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                          13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                          14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                          15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

                          Ha, that’s only the backs too. Do the forwards now !!!!

                          there was a sneaky dig at a Blues forward in there (or a dig at his fans).

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                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                          9- Hotham (“it’s ridiculous that he is there and [insert Blues and Highlander halfback names] aren’t”)

                          10- Beaudie (“hasn’t played a good game at 10 for 4 years”)

                          11- Telea (“he is so slow”)

                          12- Havili (“why is he even in the squad, more Crusader bias”)

                          13- Proctor (“why have they dropped Ioane? First Akira now his brother. He’ll be in Japan by the end of the year”)

                          14- Love (“isn’t he a fullback?”)

                          15- Jordan (“isn’t he a winger?”)

                          Ha, that’s only the backs too. Do the forwards now !!!!

                          there was a sneaky dig at a Blues forward in there (or a dig at his fans).

                          Instant ban coming up

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                          • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                            I think for loose forwards:

                            6 : Papali'i
                            7 : Cane
                            8 : Blackadder

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                            @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

                            I think for loose forwards:

                            6 : Papali'i
                            7 : Cane
                            8 : Blackadder

                            They can play paper, rock, scissors at each scrum.

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                            • P pakman

                              @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

                              I think for loose forwards:

                              6 : Papali'i
                              7 : Cane
                              8 : Blackadder

                              They can play paper, rock, scissors at each scrum.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

                              I think for loose forwards:

                              6 : Papali'i
                              7 : Cane
                              8 : Blackadder

                              They can play paper, rock, scissors at each scrum.

                              As a unit I’d call them 6.66s. I think they veer slightly more to the 7 than the 6

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                              • P pakman

                                @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

                                I think for loose forwards:

                                6 : Papali'i
                                7 : Cane
                                8 : Blackadder

                                They can play paper, rock, scissors at each scrum.

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                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

                                I think for loose forwards:

                                6 : Papali'i
                                7 : Cane
                                8 : Blackadder

                                They can play paper, rock, scissors at each scrum.

                                Sounds pretty dangerous for Ethan

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  fetchers

                                  Not sure that's been a thing since early MCaw

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                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  fetchers

                                  Not sure that's been a thing since early MCaw

                                  TBF it’s not uncommon for open sides not to be fetchers. The Boks rely heavily on Quagga and Marx for pilfering, because neither starting flanker is adept.

                                  Who would be top pilferers in ABs? RD is excellent at showcase steals near our goal line, but less so elsewhere. LJ was quite effective for Chiefs, in particular when playing 7. Paps, Cane and Niggles seem infrequent proponents. Codie can be quite effective. Who am I missing?

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                                  • P pakman

                                    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    fetchers

                                    Not sure that's been a thing since early MCaw

                                    TBF it’s not uncommon for open sides not to be fetchers. The Boks rely heavily on Quagga and Marx for pilfering, because neither starting flanker is adept.

                                    Who would be top pilferers in ABs? RD is excellent at showcase steals near our goal line, but less so elsewhere. LJ was quite effective for Chiefs, in particular when playing 7. Paps, Cane and Niggles seem infrequent proponents. Codie can be quite effective. Who am I missing?

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                                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    Who would be top pilferers in ABs?

                                    Finlay Christie gets a fair few

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                                    • P pakman

                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      fetchers

                                      Not sure that's been a thing since early MCaw

                                      TBF it’s not uncommon for open sides not to be fetchers. The Boks rely heavily on Quagga and Marx for pilfering, because neither starting flanker is adept.

                                      Who would be top pilferers in ABs? RD is excellent at showcase steals near our goal line, but less so elsewhere. LJ was quite effective for Chiefs, in particular when playing 7. Paps, Cane and Niggles seem infrequent proponents. Codie can be quite effective. Who am I missing?

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                                      @pakman ...and you'd think stats like that would be readily available somewhere!

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.

                                        Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised

                                        You sure about that ?

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.

                                        Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised

                                        You sure about that ?

                                        Go and look at the AB thread.

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                                        • P pakman

                                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          fetchers

                                          Not sure that's been a thing since early MCaw

                                          TBF it’s not uncommon for open sides not to be fetchers. The Boks rely heavily on Quagga and Marx for pilfering, because neither starting flanker is adept.

                                          Who would be top pilferers in ABs? RD is excellent at showcase steals near our goal line, but less so elsewhere. LJ was quite effective for Chiefs, in particular when playing 7. Paps, Cane and Niggles seem infrequent proponents. Codie can be quite effective. Who am I missing?

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                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Niggles

                                          Maybe when he's matchfit he might get around to arriving at a ruck first. Don't be such a hater man.

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