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  • S stodders

    @Bones Not coaches. Mentors. Surely you want your greatest players to pass on their knowledge to those coming through? To help them understand the standards required.

    This should be done by the AB leadership group, but that has been gutted in recent years, especially with Smith, Retallick, Whitelock leaving after last WC.

    The new leadership group is very green, so until it is less green and can truly lead, bring back into the fold some of those who were integral in setting the standards of the greatest era of AB rugby in the professional era. It can only benefit the new crop of the players to know they have the support and backing of certified legends.

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    @stodders said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Bones Not coaches. Mentors. Surely you want your greatest players to pass on their knowledge to those coming through? To help them understand the standards required.

    This should be done by the AB leadership group, but that has been gutted in recent years, especially with Smith, Retallick, Whitelock leaving after last WC.

    The new leadership group is very green, so until it is less green and can truly lead, bring back into the fold some of those who were integral in setting the standards of the greatest era of AB rugby in the professional era. It can only benefit the new crop of the players to know they have the support and backing of certified legends.

    I wonder were our golden generation so obsessed and so focused in their careers that post 2015 they couldn’t be arsed seeing a Rugby ball again.

    Carter, McCaw, Conrad et al.

    Maybe they completely burned themselves out.

    McCaw looked relieved to be walking away from the game. There was no hint of a bank account padding sojourn to Japan or France with him.

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    • JetJ Jet

      @stodders said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Bones Not coaches. Mentors. Surely you want your greatest players to pass on their knowledge to those coming through? To help them understand the standards required.

      This should be done by the AB leadership group, but that has been gutted in recent years, especially with Smith, Retallick, Whitelock leaving after last WC.

      The new leadership group is very green, so until it is less green and can truly lead, bring back into the fold some of those who were integral in setting the standards of the greatest era of AB rugby in the professional era. It can only benefit the new crop of the players to know they have the support and backing of certified legends.

      I wonder were our golden generation so obsessed and so focused in their careers that post 2015 they couldn’t be arsed seeing a Rugby ball again.

      Carter, McCaw, Conrad et al.

      Maybe they completely burned themselves out.

      McCaw looked relieved to be walking away from the game. There was no hint of a bank account padding sojourn to Japan or France with him.

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      @Jet Smith is now a referee, Kaino involved in France, Nonu still playing are 3 easy examples to dispute that.

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      • P ploughboy

        Sami T has been spotted in a Hamilton gym with no moon boot on and walking freely

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        @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024:

        Sami T has been spotted in a Hamilton gym with no moon boot on and walking freely

        I spoke to him last Sat. He is aiming for the EOYT. It was a rupture.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024:

          Sami T has been spotted in a Hamilton gym with no moon boot on and walking freely

          I spoke to him last Sat. He is aiming for the EOYT. It was a rupture.

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          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

          @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024:

          Sami T has been spotted in a Hamilton gym with no moon boot on and walking freely

          I spoke to him last Sat. He is aiming for the EOYT. It was a rupture.

          Well that's shit for him & shit for the AB's ball running ability.

          I hope Aumua and Taylor stay fit.. the next guy isn't ready

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024:

            Sami T has been spotted in a Hamilton gym with no moon boot on and walking freely

            I spoke to him last Sat. He is aiming for the EOYT. It was a rupture.

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            @Bovidae Would be nice if this was announced in the media. Rugby treats it's fans with such contempt

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Bovidae Would be nice if this was announced in the media. Rugby treats it's fans with such contempt

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

              @Bovidae Would be nice if this was announced in the media. Rugby treats it's fans with such contempt

              And the public are starting to vote with their feet and their wallets...

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024:

                Sami T has been spotted in a Hamilton gym with no moon boot on and walking freely

                I spoke to him last Sat. He is aiming for the EOYT. It was a rupture.

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                @Bovidae Ruptures suck!

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                  Sititi isn't mentioned here.

                  The list of All Blacks playing for their provincial teams is as follows. All matches live and exclusive on Sky Sport.

                  Saturday 17 August
                  Hawke’s Bay v Southland, McLean Park, Napier 4.35pm
                  Hawke’s Bay: Isaia Walker-Leawere.

                  Sunday 18 August
                  Bay of Plenty v North Harbour, Tauranga Domain, Tauranga, 2:05pm.
                  Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi

                  Wellington v Taranaki, Porirua Park, Wellington, 2.05pm
                  Wellington: Billy Proctor, Ruben Love

                  Counties Manukau v Waikato, Navigation Homes Stadium, Pukekohe, 4:35pm
                  Waikato: Samipeni Finau

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                    Does anyone see Richie Mounga coming back this year if things start to go wrong this season? Or even Frizell for that matter?

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                      the fuck are they going to do? are they suddenly twice the player they were 12 months ago?

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                      • JetJ Jet

                        @stodders said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Bones Not coaches. Mentors. Surely you want your greatest players to pass on their knowledge to those coming through? To help them understand the standards required.

                        This should be done by the AB leadership group, but that has been gutted in recent years, especially with Smith, Retallick, Whitelock leaving after last WC.

                        The new leadership group is very green, so until it is less green and can truly lead, bring back into the fold some of those who were integral in setting the standards of the greatest era of AB rugby in the professional era. It can only benefit the new crop of the players to know they have the support and backing of certified legends.

                        I wonder were our golden generation so obsessed and so focused in their careers that post 2015 they couldn’t be arsed seeing a Rugby ball again.

                        Carter, McCaw, Conrad et al.

                        Maybe they completely burned themselves out.

                        McCaw looked relieved to be walking away from the game. There was no hint of a bank account padding sojourn to Japan or France with him.

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                        @Jet those guys were all around the group last year in the WC lead up. There were heaps of posts on socials about it.

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                          Genuine question, it's 2024 why are we even in the comparing Razor and Foster's records, they got nothing to do with each other, Foster was in the 2019-23 threads. They got different teams, play diiferent teams, haven't got same thing going on etc etc. I think we should just look at 2024.
                          I thought I lived in the past. I look at team and think we haven't had world beating players for a few years now, so we work with what we got. I have lived through these dips with ABs a few times, and only way to keep going is look forward!

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            Genuine question, it's 2024 why are we even in the comparing Razor and Foster's records, they got nothing to do with each other, Foster was in the 2019-23 threads. They got different teams, play diiferent teams, haven't got same thing going on etc etc. I think we should just look at 2024.
                            I thought I lived in the past. I look at team and think we haven't had world beating players for a few years now, so we work with what we got. I have lived through these dips with ABs a few times, and only way to keep going is look forward!

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                            @Dan54 the really easy answer is lots were unhappy with fozzie.....and razor is making several of the same decisions on things like gameplan and selections...ergo....

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                            • Dan54D Dan54

                              Genuine question, it's 2024 why are we even in the comparing Razor and Foster's records, they got nothing to do with each other, Foster was in the 2019-23 threads. They got different teams, play diiferent teams, haven't got same thing going on etc etc. I think we should just look at 2024.
                              I thought I lived in the past. I look at team and think we haven't had world beating players for a few years now, so we work with what we got. I have lived through these dips with ABs a few times, and only way to keep going is look forward!

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                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024:

                              I look at team and think we haven't had world beating players for a few years now, so we work with what we got. I have lived through these dips with ABs a few times, and only way to keep going is look forward!

                              What you can look for is exactly what you look for in teams at any level. Some clarity of a game plan. An idea of how to beat the opposition and play to your strengths.

                              Hell, I'd say a defensive system that doesnt' ship 38 points at home, forwards who take the ball moving forward, chasers who know when kicks are happening and chase the ball, a lineout where jumpers jump to catch it and so on.

                              If we play to our potential and get beaten so be it. What shits me is poor selections, poor execution and what appear to be poor gameplans. All the while media are thrashwanking about the ABs and how amazing they are.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                the fuck are they going to do? are they suddenly twice the player they were 12 months ago?

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                the fuck are they going to do? are they suddenly twice the player they were 12 months ago?

                                I mean, the downward slide (@nostrildamus ) could be a cunning plan from Razor to get his way and bring back his guys (that all signed overseas contracts as soon as he was announced as coach).

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                                  nostrildamus
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                                  The All Black Fan motto should be "Together We Wah.."

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    The All Black Fan motto should be "Together We Wah.."

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    The All Black Fan motto should be "Together We Wah.."

                                    Have you been taking funny pills ? Your recent posts are even better than usual !

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      I look at team and think we haven't had world beating players for a few years now, so we work with what we got. I have lived through these dips with ABs a few times, and only way to keep going is look forward!

                                      What you can look for is exactly what you look for in teams at any level. Some clarity of a game plan. An idea of how to beat the opposition and play to your strengths.

                                      Hell, I'd say a defensive system that doesnt' ship 38 points at home, forwards who take the ball moving forward, chasers who know when kicks are happening and chase the ball, a lineout where jumpers jump to catch it and so on.

                                      If we play to our potential and get beaten so be it. What shits me is poor selections, poor execution and what appear to be poor gameplans. All the while media are thrashwanking about the ABs and how amazing they are.

                                      2fb8a142-3eea-45be-83d9-6f8ed8a563d8-image.png

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                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:
                                      All the while media are thrashwanking about the ABs and how amazing they are.

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                                      that's not exactly 'the media', that is NZR's own channel

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:
                                        All the while media are thrashwanking about the ABs and how amazing they are.

                                        2fb8a142-3eea-45be-83d9-6f8ed8a563d8-image.png

                                        that's not exactly 'the media', that is NZR's own channel

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                                        Bones
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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:
                                        All the while media are thrashwanking about the ABs and how amazing they are.

                                        2fb8a142-3eea-45be-83d9-6f8ed8a563d8-image.png

                                        that's not exactly 'the media', that is NZR's own channel

                                        Isn't it NZR's media channel?

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          The All Black Fan motto should be "Together We Wah.."

                                          Have you been taking funny pills ? Your recent posts are even better than usual !

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                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          The All Black Fan motto should be "Together We Wah.."

                                          Have you been taking funny pills ? Your recent posts are even better than usual !

                                          The only way is up.

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