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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

    In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

    It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

    It's a bit early to say he won't!

    One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

    It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

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    @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

    In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

    It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

    It's a bit early to say he won't!

    One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

    It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

    Razor doesn't get reappointed after a couple of years, he already there until 2027

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

      In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

      It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

      It's a bit early to say he won't!

      One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

      It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

      Razor doesn't get reappointed after a couple of years, he already there until 2027

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      #5428

      @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

      In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

      It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

      It's a bit early to say he won't!

      One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

      It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

      Razor doesn't get reappointed after a couple of years, he already there until 2027

      Poorly worded in “reappointed”. Still there was the point. That will depend on results. He is supposed to be there until ‘27. You reckon that will happen happen if he loses the Bled and say 3 matches on EOY tour ? ( extreme example with the Bled but adding drama to make point). Contracts can be broken

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

        In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

        It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

        It's a bit early to say he won't!

        One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

        It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

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        #5429

        @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

        In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

        It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

        It's a bit early to say he won't!

        One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

        It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

        It’s a bit early to predict anything really ,

        I fully want razor to succeed, and I did fozzie as well , end of the day I’m just an ab supporter who wants success

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

          In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

          It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

          It's a bit early to say he won't!

          One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

          It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

          It’s a bit early to predict anything really ,

          I fully want razor to succeed, and I did fozzie as well , end of the day I’m just an ab supporter who wants success

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          #5430

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:

          In a world of comparing foster v razor , if we do that ,

          It’s interesting how most just assumed razor would achieve more, I had hoped so too ,

          It's a bit early to say he won't!

          One major difference between them is that Foster was shit before he joined the AB's. After years of Chiefs failures, as soon as he left they won Super under Rennie. At least Razor has something going in to recommend him. Foster did of course set the precedent by losing to Arg at home too 😉

          It will be interesting to see if Razor gets reappointed in a year or two if he has a record like Foster. Would one win in SA save him too?

          It’s a bit early to predict anything really ,

          I fully want razor to succeed, and I did fozzie as well , end of the day I’m just an ab supporter who wants success

          Amen.

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            #5431

            This sort of side for the rest of the year please.

            1 Williams or De Groot
            2. Taylor
            3. Lomax
            4. S. Barrett
            5. Darry
            6. Finau or Vaii
            7 Paps
            8. A. Savea
            9. TJP (if it's wet). Ratima (if dry)
            10. DMac
            11. C.Clarke or Reiko Ioane
            12. Jordie Barrett (maybe ALB)
            13. Billy Proctor
            14. W. Jordan ( right wing looks his stronger position at test level)
            15. B. Barrett

            1. Sami T or Aumua
            2. De Groot or Williams
            3. Ofa T or Newell (I'd like to see Newell given some time in the NPC to develop his game beyond set piece)
            4. Patty T
            5. Ethan Blackadder, but I'm hoping Sotutu might be back for the EOYT.
            6. Roigard once he's ready, but any of Ratima, TJP or Notham until then.
            7. Perofeta or Love
            8. ALB or Reiko
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              #5432

              As nice as that first half was to watch, I won't be convinced there's been a material change until the All Blacks consistently play that well.

              And the bench don't look like they meet on the bus.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                This sort of side for the rest of the year please.

                1 Williams or De Groot
                2. Taylor
                3. Lomax
                4. S. Barrett
                5. Darry
                6. Finau or Vaii
                7 Paps
                8. A. Savea
                9. TJP (if it's wet). Ratima (if dry)
                10. DMac
                11. C.Clarke or Reiko Ioane
                12. Jordie Barrett (maybe ALB)
                13. Billy Proctor
                14. W. Jordan ( right wing looks his stronger position at test level)
                15. B. Barrett

                1. Sami T or Aumua
                2. De Groot or Williams
                3. Ofa T or Newell (I'd like to see Newell given some time in the NPC to develop his game beyond set piece)
                4. Patty T
                5. Ethan Blackadder, but I'm hoping Sotutu might be back for the EOYT.
                6. Roigard once he's ready, but any of Ratima, TJP or Notham until then.
                7. Perofeta or Love
                8. ALB or Reiko
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                #5433

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                This sort of side for the rest of the year please.

                1 Williams or De Groot
                2. Taylor
                3. Lomax
                4. S. Barrett
                5. Darry
                6. Finau or Vaii
                7 Paps
                8. A. Savea
                9. TJP (if it's wet). Ratima (if dry)
                10. DMac
                11. C.Clarke or Reiko Ioane
                12. Jordie Barrett (maybe ALB)
                13. Billy Proctor

                Based on what?

                1. W. Jordan ( right wing looks his stronger position at test level)

                2. B. Barrett

                3. Sami T or Aumua

                4. De Groot or Williams

                5. Ofa T or Newell (I'd like to see Newell given some time in the NPC to develop his game beyond set piece)

                6. Patty T

                7. Ethan Blackadder, but I'm hoping Sotutu might be back for the EOYT.

                8. Roigard once he's ready, but any of Ratima, TJP or Notham until then.

                9. Perofeta or Love

                10. ALB or Reiko

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  This sort of side for the rest of the year please.

                  1 Williams or De Groot
                  2. Taylor
                  3. Lomax
                  4. S. Barrett
                  5. Darry
                  6. Finau or Vaii
                  7 Paps
                  8. A. Savea
                  9. TJP (if it's wet). Ratima (if dry)
                  10. DMac
                  11. C.Clarke or Reiko Ioane
                  12. Jordie Barrett (maybe ALB)
                  13. Billy Proctor
                  14. W. Jordan ( right wing looks his stronger position at test level)
                  15. B. Barrett

                  1. Sami T or Aumua
                  2. De Groot or Williams
                  3. Ofa T or Newell (I'd like to see Newell given some time in the NPC to develop his game beyond set piece)
                  4. Patty T
                  5. Ethan Blackadder, but I'm hoping Sotutu might be back for the EOYT.
                  6. Roigard once he's ready, but any of Ratima, TJP or Notham until then.
                  7. Perofeta or Love
                  8. ALB or Reiko
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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                  1. Billy Proctor

                  The less he plays ...

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                    #5435

                    From Stuff:

                    Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                    Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

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                    • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

                      From Stuff:

                      Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                      Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

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                      #5436

                      @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                      From Stuff:

                      Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                      Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

                      So, out for Argentina?

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                      • M Machpants

                        @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                        From Stuff:

                        Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                        Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

                        So, out for Argentina?

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                        #5437

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                        From Stuff:

                        Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                        Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

                        So, out for Argentina?

                        Does Jase post here?

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                        • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

                          From Stuff:

                          Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                          Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

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                          @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                          From Stuff:

                          Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                          Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

                          Sotutu was scratched from this afternoon’s Counties’ game just before kick-off. Is he off to the Republic?

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                          • M Machpants

                            @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                            From Stuff:

                            Scott Barrett is expected to return from a finger injury to captain the All Blacks for two tests away to South Africa.
                            Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot are under injury clouds and might not travel with the 36-man squad.

                            So, out for Argentina?

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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                            Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                              Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                              Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                              Surely it's Lakai or Lio-Willie? The 7.5 is strong.

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                                With SB back they have four locks in the squad. Bower was involved in the AB camps so will be in the frame too.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                  Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                                  Surely it's Lakai or Lio-Willie? The 7.5 is strong.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                  Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                                  Surely it's Lakai or Lio-Willie? The 7.5 is strong.

                                  I obviously wouldn't mind 3 Canes being called up but Lakai's time will come. Hoskin's deserves it more at this stage after a great Super season.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                      Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                                      Surely it's Lakai or Lio-Willie? The 7.5 is strong.

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                                      #5444

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                      Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                                      Surely it's Lakai or Lio-Willie? The 7.5 is strong.

                                      Iose?

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                        Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                                        Surely it's Lakai or Lio-Willie? The 7.5 is strong.

                                        Iose?

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                                        @booboo too far away from Canterbury

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                          Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Patrick Tuipulotu, Luke Jacobson and Ethan de Groot

                                          Who do we expect to come in? Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hoskins Sotutu and Xavier Numia?

                                          George Bower?

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