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  • canefanC canefan

    @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

    He's already said they will share the load

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    Rancid Schnitzel
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    @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

    He's already said they will share the load

    Sorry but that immediately made me think about the "carry his load" scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

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      @nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

      @Bovidae said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

      Hinton, Goile, Cull

      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350389274/all-blacks-burning-questions-ahead-rugby-championship-assignment-away-springboks

      this one? Quite a few different takes in that article.

      biggest takeaway from that article is from Cully:

      "it again shines an unflattering light on the All Blacks coaching appointment process. MacDonald's hasty exit means his recruitment was a mistake from the outset, and there is a further layer to it.

      In the period between Scott Robertson getting the job last year and finalising his coaching team, I contacted Tony Brown to see if he had been approached.

      Brown, who has always been a straight-shooter with me, said no but he was available and was looking for a job because his old mate Jamie Joseph had already decided to head back to NZ.

      So, the All Blacks might have also missed out on Brown by going with MacDonald − to the Springboks' benefit."

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      @darylmitchell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

      @nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

      @Bovidae said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

      Hinton, Goile, Cull

      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350389274/all-blacks-burning-questions-ahead-rugby-championship-assignment-away-springboks

      this one? Quite a few different takes in that article.

      biggest takeaway from that article is from Cully:

      "it again shines an unflattering light on the All Blacks coaching appointment process. MacDonald's hasty exit means his recruitment was a mistake from the outset, and there is a further layer to it.

      In the period between Scott Robertson getting the job last year and finalising his coaching team, I contacted Tony Brown to see if he had been approached.

      Brown, who has always been a straight-shooter with me, said no but he was available and was looking for a job because his old mate Jamie Joseph had already decided to head back to NZ.

      So, the All Blacks might have also missed out on Brown by going with MacDonald − to the Springboks' benefit."

      Oh my oh my.

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      • canefanC canefan

        @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

        He's already said they will share the load

        Ok so they had too many obviously.

        Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

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        @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

        He's already said they will share the load

        Ok so they had too many obviously.

        Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

        Not even halfway through the season, but genuinely don't think they will replace him.

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        • M Machpants

          @darylmitchell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

          @nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

          @Bovidae said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

          Hinton, Goile, Cull

          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350389274/all-blacks-burning-questions-ahead-rugby-championship-assignment-away-springboks

          this one? Quite a few different takes in that article.

          biggest takeaway from that article is from Cully:

          "it again shines an unflattering light on the All Blacks coaching appointment process. MacDonald's hasty exit means his recruitment was a mistake from the outset, and there is a further layer to it.

          In the period between Scott Robertson getting the job last year and finalising his coaching team, I contacted Tony Brown to see if he had been approached.

          Brown, who has always been a straight-shooter with me, said no but he was available and was looking for a job because his old mate Jamie Joseph had already decided to head back to NZ.

          So, the All Blacks might have also missed out on Brown by going with MacDonald − to the Springboks' benefit."

          Jesus that makes you sick

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          @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

          He's already said they will share the load

          Ok so they had too many obviously.

          Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

          Not even halfway through the season, but genuinely don't think they will replace him.

          But they haven't said they won't replace him in the long term, Ellison is being lined up for Crusaders job in 2026, best case scenario is Byleendal comes back from Leinster in 2 years, or ask Nick Evans if he's keen.

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          • D darylmitchell

            @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

            He's already said they will share the load

            Ok so they had too many obviously.

            Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

            Not even halfway through the season, but genuinely don't think they will replace him.

            But they haven't said they won't replace him in the long term, Ellison is being lined up for Crusaders job in 2026, best case scenario is Byleendal comes back from Leinster in 2 years, or ask Nick Evans if he's keen.

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            @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

            He's already said they will share the load

            Ok so they had too many obviously.

            Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

            Not even halfway through the season, but genuinely don't think they will replace him.

            But they haven't said they won't replace him in the long term, Ellison is being lined up for Crusaders job in 2026, best case scenario is Byleendal comes back from Leinster in 2 years, or ask Nick Evans if he's keen.

            I bet they don't replace him with same thing. They may actually have use for another skills coach at some stage, but will not have someone who will set tactics . But anyway we will know more eventually.

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

              He's already said they will share the load

              Ok so they had too many obviously.

              Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

              Not even halfway through the season, but genuinely don't think they will replace him.

              But they haven't said they won't replace him in the long term, Ellison is being lined up for Crusaders job in 2026, best case scenario is Byleendal comes back from Leinster in 2 years, or ask Nick Evans if he's keen.

              I bet they don't replace him with same thing. They may actually have use for another skills coach at some stage, but will not have someone who will set tactics . But anyway we will know more eventually.

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              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              Has there been any word who is replacing Rangi as outside back coach? Or does Razor agree with me that the coaching group was/is a bit big??:winking_face_with_tongue:

              He's already said they will share the load

              Ok so they had too many obviously.

              Yes and no. Maybe they just feel it's too late to add another coach this season. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It is what it is

              Not even halfway through the season, but genuinely don't think they will replace him.

              But they haven't said they won't replace him in the long term, Ellison is being lined up for Crusaders job in 2026, best case scenario is Byleendal comes back from Leinster in 2 years, or ask Nick Evans if he's keen.

              I bet they don't replace him with same thing. They may actually have use for another skills coach at some stage, but will not have someone who will set tactics . But anyway we will know more eventually.

              1 year left in Penney's contract at Crusaders, Ellison set to takeover in 2026.

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                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/leon-macdonald-payout-latest-all-blacks-coaching-financial-hit-for-new-zealand-rugby/MSVYWRIASVDF7O7IBMGILTTAXA/

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                  Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

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                    Close to 2 years payout? Can I have what he's (allegedly) having ..

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

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                      @Bones said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

                      Or Razor used Leon to get the gig and has now worked him out to have his “yes” men around him.

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                        @Bones said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

                        Or Razor used Leon to get the gig and has now worked him out to have his “yes” men around him.

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                        @darylmitchell you think he wouldn't have got the gig without Leon? I think he would've been top odds even if he had Penny, Hammett and Blackadder.

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                          @Bones said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                          Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

                          Or Razor used Leon to get the gig and has now worked him out to have his “yes” men around him.

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                          @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                          Or Razor used Leon to get the gig

                          100% this.

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                            Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

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                            @Bones said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                            Hot take: Leon didn't want the job but Razor convinced him he could get him some easy money in his jobs for the boys scheme and he would only have to work for a couple of months.

                            I wonder who will line up next for the gravy train?

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                              Some laughable conspiracy theories in the last few posts (though with Bones you never know if he is taking the piss)

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                                Some laughable conspiracy theories in the last few posts (though with Bones you never know if he is taking the piss)

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                                @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                Some laughable conspiracy theories in the last few posts (though with Bones you never know if he is taking the piss)

                                I think you should know he's taking the piss

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                                  Some laughable conspiracy theories in the last few posts (though with Bones you never know if he is taking the piss)

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                                  @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                  Some laughable conspiracy theories in the last few posts (though with Bones you never know if he is taking the piss)

                                  50/50

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                                    @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                    Some laughable conspiracy theories in the last few posts (though with Bones you never know if he is taking the piss)

                                    50/50

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                                        Close to 2 years payout? Can I have what he's (allegedly) having ..

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                                        @nostrildamus

                                        That’s the limit of it.

                                        Typically, If he starts another job in 6 months then that should limit the payout until he start his new job.

                                        Obviously I don’t know the detail of it all but that is common in employment tribunals/disputes - you can only claim for the time you are out of work

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