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    We have a ton of undersized locks in NZ.
    Surely one of them can convert to 6 if we want more size there.

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    • FrankF Frank

      We have a ton of undersized locks in NZ.
      Surely one of them can convert to 6 if we want more size there.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

      We have a ton of undersized locks in NZ.
      Surely one of them can convert to 6 if we want more size there.

      Wouldn't mind seeing Delaney give it a go, but he does seem a bit "lumbery".

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        Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

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          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

          Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

          Highly-paid Rugby correspondents and journalists?

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

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            @mariner4life 👀

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              So we're not going to go through the season unbeaten, win the Rugby Championshop or re-take the Number 1 ranking this season.

              So what's the objective this season?

              I'd like to see us retain the Bledisloe and then go through the Northern Tour unbeaten.

              It would be nice to see "tomorrow" players like Cam Roigard, Cortes Ratima, Harry Plummer, Billy Proctor and Ruben Love given more time in the Black jersey too.

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                So we're not going to go through the season unbeaten, win the Rugby Championshop or re-take the Number 1 ranking this season.

                So what's the objective this season?

                I'd like to see us retain the Bledisloe and then go through the Northern Tour unbeaten.

                It would be nice to see "tomorrow" players like Cam Roigard, Cortes Ratima, Harry Plummer, Billy Proctor and Ruben Love given more time in the Black jersey too.

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                #5551

                @sparky think you forgot Isaia Walker-Leawere, Caleb Delaney, Peter Lakai, Xavier Numia, etc.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @sparky think you forgot Isaia Walker-Leawere, Caleb Delaney, Peter Lakai, Xavier Numia, etc.

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                  @Bones Xavier Numia for sure.

                  The other three might benefit from another year in the All Blacks XV.

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                    @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                    Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                    I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

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                    @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                    Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                    I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

                    I’d say it’s more to do with the fact that two of the better regular Steamer players play on the wing and having a player like Narawa that could be called up for the ABs at the drop of a hat means don’t disrupt that back 3. He has looked okay at centre though.

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                      @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                      Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                      I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

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                      @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                      Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                      I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

                      You're the only one.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

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                        African Monkey
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                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                        Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

                        Agreed. They take over all the GameDay threads too the weirdos. Its like reading stupid social media takes on that legend of marty banks page (another weirdo).

                        The Highlanders new fans on here are good value though.

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                          Who are all these new posters with the hottest and shittest takes?

                          Agreed. They take over all the GameDay threads too the weirdos. Its like reading stupid social media takes on that legend of marty banks page (another weirdo).

                          The Highlanders new fans on here are good value though.

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                          @African-Monkey thanks

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                            @African-Monkey thanks

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @African-Monkey thanks

                            Except you of course.

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                              @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                              Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                              I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

                              I’d say it’s more to do with the fact that two of the better regular Steamer players play on the wing and having a player like Narawa that could be called up for the ABs at the drop of a hat means don’t disrupt that back 3. He has looked okay at centre though.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                              Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                              I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

                              I’d say it’s more to do with the fact that two of the better regular Steamer players play on the wing and having a player like Narawa that could be called up for the ABs at the drop of a hat means don’t disrupt that back 3. He has looked okay at centre though.

                              I guess I just find it hard to believe that when an All Black is released to NPC to get some game time, that the NPC coach can override the wishes of the national coach and play them out of position, making the entire exercise pointless and potentially hindering the national team. (devils advocate, you can argue here that actually Narawa is so out of the ABs picture that Robertson let the Steamer coach know he can play him wherever he chooses, although I highly doubt that is the situation).

                              We've seen this before, Jordie was suddenly being played at 12 for the hurricanes well before he actually started at 12 for the ABs.

                              Rieko played at center for the Blues before doing so for the ABs etc.

                              Unless I'm mistaken, I believe both these times it had been confirmed the AB coaches had made these requests to the super coaches. So it seems quite convenient that where Narawa had primarily played wing/fullback for the last 2 years for the steamers, he is now suddenly playing center right after leaving ABs camp and at a time that we don't have much depth at center currently.

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                                @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                                Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                                I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

                                You're the only one.

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                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones Even more ironic that Narawa has been playing center the entirety of the NPC since being out of All Blacks camp (I'd say EXTREMELY likely at the request of Razor).

                                Would be hilarious if he usurps Rieko as starting center.

                                I think Narawa can be a future great All Black, reminds me a lot of Sivivatu, very high spatial awareness and game IQ. Game looks slow motion for him.

                                You're the only one.

                                I'll bookmark this for when Narawa becomes our starting center by this time next year.

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                                  A couple of points which seems to be an overall trend of the AB's rather than game specific comments.

                                  1. Our attack is ok, we're scoring more than enough points to win games, I'm getting increasingly annoyed at the commentary that "We had chances to put away the game (i.e. score more points), but didn't take them". We shipped 38 against the Argies, and 31 against SA. If the thought is that if we just simply score 50 points a game and we will win, well goodness me - that's not smart or realistic thinking in the slightest. Which leads us into...

                                  2. Our defence and disclipline has cost us badly, our poor disclipline has lead to us playing a lot of the game in the crunch moments in our own half. Our goal-line defence off the pick and go close to the line in particular has been awful, what makes this worse is that bashing the ball in close to the line is a low risk attacking method. We aren't asking teams to take chances or use high-risk plays to score points because they can bash through us playing low risk rugby This has to be fixed immediately or we will continue to lose games.

                                  3. Our bench as a whole, quite simply has been dreadful. The quibble isn't even the fact that they're coming on and having no impact but the fact that they're making things CONSIDERABLY WORSE when they get onto the field. It's very odd because if you look at the players they are all "impact" players.
                                    Whether it's because they can't fit into the systems (player issue), or know the systems so they can fit in (coaching issue) or simpy dion't have the skills or temprement to fit into the game plan and execute (player and coaching issue) I really don't know. What I do know however is that when it comes to the use of the bench we are being outsmarted tatcially and executionally and ultimately that falls on the coachs.

                                  So it's defence and the last 20 minutes of the game that are costing us dearly and we won't start a winning trend until we fix these.

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                                  • Windows97W Windows97

                                    A couple of points which seems to be an overall trend of the AB's rather than game specific comments.

                                    1. Our attack is ok, we're scoring more than enough points to win games, I'm getting increasingly annoyed at the commentary that "We had chances to put away the game (i.e. score more points), but didn't take them". We shipped 38 against the Argies, and 31 against SA. If the thought is that if we just simply score 50 points a game and we will win, well goodness me - that's not smart or realistic thinking in the slightest. Which leads us into...

                                    2. Our defence and disclipline has cost us badly, our poor disclipline has lead to us playing a lot of the game in the crunch moments in our own half. Our goal-line defence off the pick and go close to the line in particular has been awful, what makes this worse is that bashing the ball in close to the line is a low risk attacking method. We aren't asking teams to take chances or use high-risk plays to score points because they can bash through us playing low risk rugby This has to be fixed immediately or we will continue to lose games.

                                    3. Our bench as a whole, quite simply has been dreadful. The quibble isn't even the fact that they're coming on and having no impact but the fact that they're making things CONSIDERABLY WORSE when they get onto the field. It's very odd because if you look at the players they are all "impact" players.
                                      Whether it's because they can't fit into the systems (player issue), or know the systems so they can fit in (coaching issue) or simpy dion't have the skills or temprement to fit into the game plan and execute (player and coaching issue) I really don't know. What I do know however is that when it comes to the use of the bench we are being outsmarted tatcially and executionally and ultimately that falls on the coachs.

                                    So it's defence and the last 20 minutes of the game that are costing us dearly and we won't start a winning trend until we fix these.

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                                    @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    A couple of points which seems to be an overall trend of the AB's rather than game specific comments.

                                    1. Our attack is ok, we're scoring more than enough points to win games, I'm getting increasingly annoyed at the commentary that "We had chances to put away the game (i.e. score more points), but didn't take them". We shipped 38 against the Argies, and 31 against SA. If the thought is that if we just simply score 50 points a game and we will win, well goodness me - that's not smart or realistic thinking in the slightest. Which leads us into...

                                    2. Our defence and disclipline has cost us badly, our poor disclipline has lead to us playing a lot of the game in the crunch moments in our own half. Our goal-line defence off the pick and go close to the line in particular has been awful, what makes this worse is that bashing the ball in close to the line is a low risk attacking method. We aren't asking teams to take chances or use high-risk plays to score points because they can bash through us playing low risk rugby This has to be fixed immediately or we will continue to lose games.

                                    3. Our bench as a whole, quite simply has been dreadful. The quibble isn't even the fact that they're coming on and having no impact but the fact that they're making things CONSIDERABLY WORSE when they get onto the field. It's very odd because if you look at the players they are all "impact" players.
                                      Whether it's because they can't fit into the systems (player issue), or know the systems so they can fit in (coaching issue) or simpy dion't have the skills or temprement to fit into the game plan and execute (player and coaching issue) I really don't know. What I do know however is that when it comes to the use of the bench we are being outsmarted tatcially and executionally and ultimately that falls on the coachs.

                                    So it's defence and the last 20 minutes of the game that are costing us dearly and we won't start a winning trend until we fix these.

                                    Sounds like Wales

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                                      Razor forged a reputation at the Crusaders as a ruthless selector but currently his decisions around subs and selections are as bad as Foster pre-Schmidt. If we don't win this Rugby Championship (which is looking highly likely) he should introduce an independent selector like Hansen/Foster had with Grant Fox.

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                                        The ABs atm and their selections are doing my head in. It's a large case of try the same shit with the same players and expect different results. I agree with @darylmitchell, we need to stop giving players that have had plenty of chances to prove themselves time in the Black jersey. ALB and Ioane aren't cutting it for me in the centres, we need to give Proctor a run there. Bring Numia in for Ofa, he dismantled Canterbury's scrum yesterday and once again showed why he should be an AB after being the form prop in Super. Guys like Sititi, Lakai etc aswell are players that will propel the ABs and allow us to play the expansive game that many of us desire.

                                        A big issue atm is when we've got Blackadder on the park with Cane/Papali'i we have F all go forward on attack and this is severely inhibiting our ability to get to the edges and release our attacking weapons.

                                        I'd love to see the below 23 get a run on the end of year tour. I'm done with the 'hard hitting 7', we need someone that has the ability to be effective on both sides of the ball. Oh the irony.

                                        1. Wiliams
                                        2. Taylor
                                        3. Lomax
                                        4. S Barrett
                                        5. Darry
                                        6. Blackadder
                                        7. Lakai
                                        8. Savea
                                        9. Roigard
                                        10. McKenzie
                                        11. Clarke
                                        12. J Barrett
                                        13. Proctor
                                        14. Jordan
                                        15. Love
                                        16. Aumua
                                        17. Numia
                                        18. Newell
                                        19. Va'ai
                                        20. Sititi
                                        21. Ratima
                                        22. B Barrett
                                        23. Ioane
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                                          The ABs atm and their selections are doing my head in. It's a large case of try the same shit with the same players and expect different results. I agree with @darylmitchell, we need to stop giving players that have had plenty of chances to prove themselves time in the Black jersey. ALB and Ioane aren't cutting it for me in the centres, we need to give Proctor a run there. Bring Numia in for Ofa, he dismantled Canterbury's scrum yesterday and once again showed why he should be an AB after being the form prop in Super. Guys like Sititi, Lakai etc aswell are players that will propel the ABs and allow us to play the expansive game that many of us desire.

                                          A big issue atm is when we've got Blackadder on the park with Cane/Papali'i we have F all go forward on attack and this is severely inhibiting our ability to get to the edges and release our attacking weapons.

                                          I'd love to see the below 23 get a run on the end of year tour. I'm done with the 'hard hitting 7', we need someone that has the ability to be effective on both sides of the ball. Oh the irony.

                                          1. Wiliams
                                          2. Taylor
                                          3. Lomax
                                          4. S Barrett
                                          5. Darry
                                          6. Blackadder
                                          7. Lakai
                                          8. Savea
                                          9. Roigard
                                          10. McKenzie
                                          11. Clarke
                                          12. J Barrett
                                          13. Proctor
                                          14. Jordan
                                          15. Love
                                          16. Aumua
                                          17. Numia
                                          18. Newell
                                          19. Va'ai
                                          20. Sititi
                                          21. Ratima
                                          22. B Barrett
                                          23. Ioane
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