Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@junior said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chester-Draws said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
This AB pack is starting to remind me of 99-01 AB era packs
Undersized try hards.
That were superior to the SA forwards for the majority of the first game.
ABs were also bigger.
We are not a small side, regardless of how strongly that myth is embedded.
We are not small, but we play small. The way our pack carts the ball - flat-footed, trying to put on a step, and then power through a weak shoulder - could not be more different than what the best - RSA, Ireland, France - are doing - running onto the ball at pace and using momentum and plan physics to get over the advantage line.
I was watching this last weekend trying to figure out why. All I can think is we're trying to play safe with the ball while also forcing the opposition to do all the work on defence. We make them come to us instead of going to them, I assume with the theory we get more secure ball and they tire out quicker.
But yeah it's not really working when our bench comes on and pretend they're in some unimportant exhibition match eh.
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@junior said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chester-Draws said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
This AB pack is starting to remind me of 99-01 AB era packs
Undersized try hards.
That were superior to the SA forwards for the majority of the first game.
ABs were also bigger.
We are not a small side, regardless of how strongly that myth is embedded.
We are not small, but we play small. The way our pack carts the ball - flat-footed, trying to put on a step, and then power through a weak shoulder - could not be more different than what the best - RSA, Ireland, France - are doing - running onto the ball at pace and using momentum and plan physics to get over the advantage line.
I was watching this last weekend trying to figure out why. All I can think is we're trying to play safe with the ball while also forcing the opposition to do all the work on defence. We make them come to us instead of going to them, I assume with the theory we get more secure ball and they tire out quicker.
But yeah it's not really working when our bench comes on and pretend they're in some unimportant exhibition match eh.
Same ,I was surprised how ordinary it looked ,
They were catching the ball flat footed and then having a look at the defence before starting to move
All I can think of is they didn’t want to turn it over and were determined to keep it safe as a priority. -
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Story of the season is surely Blackadder casting off his niggles moniker by being an 80 minute week in week out tyro.
WPOTY incoming.
This post aged well.
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Story of the season is surely Blackadder casting off his niggles moniker by being an 80 minute week in week out tyro.
WPOTY incoming.
This post aged well.
He plays too hard, even for his own body. Remorseless dedication to the shirt.
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I know interweb stats suck and all, but Kwagga is listed at 1.8m and 98kg
Sititi is listed at 1.87m and 113kg....1.87 is probably a bit short for a genuine 6, but size wise, 113 is a good size for a ball carrier, that we need
@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I know interweb stats suck and all, but Kwagga is listed at 1.8m and 98kg
Sititi is listed at 1.87m and 113kg....1.87 is probably a bit short for a genuine 6, but size wise, 113 is a good size for a ball carrier, that we need
That’s about the same as Papalii and Blackadder though isn’t it ? Jacobsen and Cane not much lighter…..
I think it’s more a case of explosiveness and body position rather than weight.
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From a mate, which I posted back in early June
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
From a mate, which I posted back in early June
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.
The very definition of keeping your powder dry
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Story of the season is surely Blackadder casting off his niggles moniker by being an 80 minute week in week out tyro.
WPOTY incoming.
This post aged well.
He plays too hard, even for his own body. Remorseless dedication to the shirt.
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Story of the season is surely Blackadder casting off his niggles moniker by being an 80 minute week in week out tyro.
WPOTY incoming.
This post aged well.
He plays too hard, even for his own body. Remorseless dedication to the shirt.
Yeah, that can't be denied. I'm far from his biggest fan and side with the critics of him, but yeah, he really does give it his all when he does make the field.
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@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
From a mate, which I posted back in early June
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.
The very definition of keeping your powder dry
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
From a mate, which I posted back in early June
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.
The very definition of keeping your powder dry
The powder may be dry, but the keg has taken a hell of a beating!
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Telea needs a big game
Clarke was excellent last week.
Telea's form in recent times has been poor. He does seem to suit playing the Boks though.
Careful, when the Boks read this they may make a pact!
@nostrildamus nah, pacts are serious bizness. Not for wings banished to the shadow realm by lock/blindside/8 hybrids not noted for their footwork
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
From a mate, which I posted back in early June
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.
The very definition of keeping your powder dry
The powder may be dry, but the keg has taken a hell of a beating!
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@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@pakman the issue is the quality of powder and the fragility of the keg.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I know interweb stats suck and all, but Kwagga is listed at 1.8m and 98kg
Sititi is listed at 1.87m and 113kg....1.87 is probably a bit short for a genuine 6, but size wise, 113 is a good size for a ball carrier, that we need
That’s about the same as Papalii and Blackadder though isn’t it ? Jacobsen and Cane not much lighter…..
I think it’s more a case of explosiveness and body position rather than weight.
@MN5 not that internet stats are worth alot, both Cane and Dalton are supposedly under 110kg...anywho, point was someone said Sititi was only 7 sized, when in reality he is a good size for a traditional 8, but then you have Ardie, so yeah...but yep other shit goes into it too.
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@MN5 not that internet stats are worth alot, both Cane and Dalton are supposedly under 110kg...anywho, point was someone said Sititi was only 7 sized, when in reality he is a good size for a traditional 8, but then you have Ardie, so yeah...but yep other shit goes into it too.
@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MN5 not that internet stats are worth alot, both Cane and Dalton are supposedly under 110kg...anywho, point was someone said Sititi was only 7 sized, when in reality he is a good size for a traditional 8, but then you have Ardie, so yeah...but yep other shit goes into it too.
They should all get weighed before matches like combat sport fighters.
That way we can say ‘ooooo such and such needs to bulk up/stop eating pies’
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Fears : Jordan under Pollard's bombs - lineout because of the smallest ever FL trio of the professional era - lack of speed on the wings.
Hopes : quick ball for DMac as Ratima's passing is sharper than TJP's - Scrum should work even better thanks to its cohesion (same starting front five) - Pollard less dangerous than Feinberg with ball in hand. -
Fears : Ref rulings
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Fears : Jordan under Pollard's bombs - lineout because of the smallest ever FL trio of the professional era - lack of speed on the wings.
Hopes : quick ball for DMac as Ratima's passing is sharper than TJP's - Scrum should work even better thanks to its cohesion (same starting front five) - Pollard less dangerous than Feinberg with ball in hand.@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Fears : Jordan under Pollard's bombs - lineout because of the smallest ever FL trio of the professional era - lack of speed on the wings.
Hopes : quick ball for DMac as Ratima's passing is sharper than TJP's - Scrum should work even better thanks to its cohesion (same starting front five) - Pollard less dangerous than Feinberg with ball in hand.I suspect the back 3 are going to get tested with a lot of high ball, I think they might go after Jordan to test his confidence.
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@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Fears : Jordan under Pollard's bombs - lineout because of the smallest ever FL trio of the professional era - lack of speed on the wings.
Hopes : quick ball for DMac as Ratima's passing is sharper than TJP's - Scrum should work even better thanks to its cohesion (same starting front five) - Pollard less dangerous than Feinberg with ball in hand.I suspect the back 3 are going to get tested with a lot of high ball, I think they might go after Jordan to test his confidence.
@kiwiinmelb best hope they have been doing lots of catching drills this week
