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Springboks vs All Blacks 2

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    Ratima Jordan Sititi should have stayed on.
    Mentally weak leadership in second half.
    Have to try Canes Tosi Numia Proctor Love
    Slow wingers don't work out

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    • TordahT Tordah

      Another pleasing performance by the forwards. Let down by shit kicking by the backs and a porous midfield defence. Reece needs to be dropped for the Marx try. It would have been OK had he been steamrolled, but that was terrible. Caleb Clarke missing big time

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      #1099

      @Tordah yep, that was a shocker by Reece. Let his team down today. Silly YC and bad switch off in second half to allow Boks to score. Add in the offside penalty he gave away and he was very costly.

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        Sititi played out of position and arguably had more impact than Blackadder.

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          Can't wait for Plummer to be dropped from the squad without playing a game

          The best 10 in Super Rugby this year

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

            @Victor-Meldrew no reliable kicker in international rugby, no winning.

            ABs had the opportunity in 2nd half to go back in front and put pressure back on SA. They failed. That isn’t Robertson’s fault.

            Who coaches the team on how and when to pressure the opposition?

            Ardie failing to secure the ball at the back of the maul after winning the lineout. Is that the coach’s fault? And then the team compounded it with a penalty with a reckless clear out to gift SA an exit.

            Who selects and coaches the team on how to do the basics and on the need for discipline when there's a need to put pressure on?

            Great that injuries have allowed players like Sititi and Ratima to shine and Vaa'i has been a bit of a revelation but something clearly isn't working

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            @Victor-Meldrew come on Vic, that was a coach killer. Savea is one of NZ’s best players, but he has not been 2023 Savea this year. Too many switch off moments from him.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Can't wait for Plummer to be dropped from the squad without playing a game

              The best 10 in Super Rugby this year

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              @KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

              Can't wait for Plummer to be dropped from the squad without playing a game

              The best 10 in Super Rugby this year

              Given he can play 2 positions, and kick goals, he may still be a chance.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                Sititi played out of position and arguably had more impact than Blackadder.

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                @nostrildamus shades of Jerry today

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009

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                  @Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                  Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009

                  Means so much for Kolisi. And the whole team obviously. Frans talking about it

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                  • S stodders

                    @Tordah yep, that was a shocker by Reece. Let his team down today. Silly YC and bad switch off in second half to allow Boks to score. Add in the offside penalty he gave away and he was very costly.

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                    @stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                    @Tordah yep, that was a shocker by Reece. Let his team down today. Silly YC and bad switch off in second half to allow Boks to score. Add in the offside penalty he gave away and he was very costly.

                    and a sloppy miracle pass I think?

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                      The next two matches are going to be very, very interesting

                      Razor obviously has a plan which for the most part is being let down by bad execution at critical times

                      Does he persevere with the personnel he has and hope they get it right?

                      Or does he bring in fresh faces to see if they can do any better?

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                        Ratima DMac Ioane JB Proctor Clarke Jordan/Love
                        Time for the young guys

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                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                          Ratima DMac Ioane JB Proctor Clarke Jordan/Love
                          Time for the young guys

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                          @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                          Ratima DMac Ioane JB Proctor Clarke Jordan/Love
                          Time for the young guys

                          Is Perofeta injured?

                          Is JB really doing that much?

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            Ratima DMac Ioane JB Proctor Clarke Jordan/Love
                            Time for the young guys

                            Is Perofeta injured?

                            Is JB really doing that much?

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                            @MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            Ratima DMac Ioane JB Proctor Clarke Jordan/Love
                            Time for the young guys

                            Is Perofeta injured?

                            Is JB really doing that much?

                            Perofeta injury is the only reason Plummer has been called up

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                            • S stodders

                              @Victor-Meldrew come on Vic, that was a coach killer. Savea is one of NZ’s best players, but he has not been 2023 Savea this year. Too many switch off moments from him.

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                              @stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                              @Victor-Meldrew come on Vic, that was a coach killer. Savea is one of NZ’s best players, but he has not been 2023 Savea this year. Too many switch off moments from him.

                              The coming apart all over the pitch in the last 20 minutes is too common to be anything but systemic.

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                              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                Ratima Jordan Sititi should have stayed on.
                                Mentally weak leadership in second half.
                                Have to try Canes Tosi Numia Proctor Love
                                Slow wingers don't work out

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                                stodders
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                                @BerniesCorner weak leadership is very true.

                                Savea is a leader by action. He doesn’t strike me as a strategist. Scott and Jordie Barrett too. NZ need some thinkers in the team.

                                I think Proctor is a good shout. Feels like he is more in the mould of Conrad Smith than Tana Umaga.

                                NZ also need some smarts out wide, a la a Ben Smith.

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                                • S stodders

                                  @BerniesCorner weak leadership is very true.

                                  Savea is a leader by action. He doesn’t strike me as a strategist. Scott and Jordie Barrett too. NZ need some thinkers in the team.

                                  I think Proctor is a good shout. Feels like he is more in the mould of Conrad Smith than Tana Umaga.

                                  NZ also need some smarts out wide, a la a Ben Smith.

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                                  @stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                  Savea is a leader by action. He doesn’t strike me as a strategist. Scott and Jordie Barrett too. NZ need some thinkers in the team.
                                  I think Proctor is a good shout. Feels like he is more in the mould of Conrad Smith than Tana Umaga.
                                  Yes.
                                  NZ also need some smarts out wide, a la a Ben Smith.

                                  Who?

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                                    @BerniesCorner weak leadership is very true.

                                    Savea is a leader by action. He doesn’t strike me as a strategist. Scott and Jordie Barrett too. NZ need some thinkers in the team.

                                    I think Proctor is a good shout. Feels like he is more in the mould of Conrad Smith than Tana Umaga.

                                    NZ also need some smarts out wide, a la a Ben Smith.

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                                    @stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                    NZ also need some smarts out wide, a la a Ben Smith.

                                    Some pace and power out wide would even be nice. Aka not Reece and Telea

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                                      This team reminds me of the AB teams from the early 00s. Talented but incredibly stupid and lacking in composure when the pressure comes on.

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                                        Leadership big problem we could of won that.
                                        Proud of young forwards

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew come on Vic, that was a coach killer. Savea is one of NZ’s best players, but he has not been 2023 Savea this year. Too many switch off moments from him.

                                          The coming apart all over the pitch in the last 20 minutes is too common to be anything but systemic.

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                                          stodders
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                                          @Victor-Meldrew Boks were applying a heap of pressure. I don’t think there are many teams that can withstand the Boks when they suffocate you. Ireland are probably the only ones right now.

                                          ABs didn’t capitulate. They didn’t control either and Robertson would surely have learned a lot about the players over the last 2 weeks. Let’s see what the EOYT tour squad looks like. I think there will be a changing of the guard in the backs.

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