Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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I watched at pub and no ability to watch replay, but it just may be that Willie Le Roux was MOTM for that yellow. If that ball goes to hand must have been a good chance of try. If clear enough then a penalty try.
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I watched at pub and no ability to watch replay, but it just may be that Willie Le Roux was MOTM for that yellow. If that ball goes to hand must have been a good chance of try. If clear enough then a penalty try.
In fact, Kolbe coming across to cover so would have been foot race between him and Reece.
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Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.
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We couldn’t have looked more erratic today if we tried. Well played Springboks.
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Match winner if over.
No. A 2 point lead with 8 minutes remaining.
@KiwiMurph in that game Boks were only ever going to get over in eight minutes with a lot of luck.
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@KiwiMurph in that game Boks were only ever going to get over in eight minutes with a lot of luck.
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@KiwiMurph in that game Boks were only ever going to get over in eight minutes with a lot of luck.
And yet they seem to win in the last quarter a lot
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Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes. -
ABs didn't score when Le Roux was in the bin
SA scored 5 pts when Lomax was in the binThat was the difference (almost
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Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.
And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.
Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.
Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.
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@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.
And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.
Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.
Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.
@Jet fitness of the starters isn’t the issue. Lomax and Williams were both going well past 60 mins. Taylor went 80.
The issue is that the quality coming off the bench is unable to maintain the levels of the starting XV. ABs bench used to raise the performance levels in last 20. If that were the case today, the game was there to be won.
One of the keys for Robertson is to find the right mix of bench players to inject impetus and maintain performance, or even better, raise it to get that late game surge working again.
The other is to stop the mistakes. Sometimes there is a time to play. Sometimes there is a time to work from set piece to set piece and be patient. Patience is lacking in the ABs right now and it shows in the leaders.
The good news is that the current AB team and coaches were not far from winning both tests in SA against the reigning world champs and current leading SH nation. ABs have been measured and have seen their limitations. Now the major work starts.
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Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.
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@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.
And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.
Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.
Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.
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@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.
And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.
Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.
Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.
The thing is these 4 guys are a potent back 3. We have kind of got this wrong at the moment.
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@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.
The thing is these 4 guys are a potent back 3. We have kind of got this wrong at the moment.
@BerniesCorner Rieko would be a brilliant closer, able to cover wing and 13. Bring him on to wreak havoc against tired defences.
The make up of the 23 is what is important now
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ABs by 10. We weren’t fall apart in the last 15 this week.
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
ABs by 10. We weren’t fall apart in the last 15 this week.
I wish
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@akan004 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
What was the point of our box kicks from Ratima, when our wingers were merely going for a slow jog after them? Clarke was definitely missed today. I hope we never see Reece and Talea in black again.
I think that was maybe the worst collective AB back 3 performance I have ever seen. All useless under the high ball, barely effective in attack, constantly doing something dumb. Just horrible.
@kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@akan004 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
What was the point of our box kicks from Ratima, when our wingers were merely going for a slow jog after them? Clarke was definitely missed today. I hope we never see Reece and Talea in black again.
I think that was maybe the worst collective AB back 3 performance I have ever seen. All useless under the high ball, barely effective in attack, constantly doing something dumb. Just horrible.
Reminiscent of 09
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@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009
First time they have won four in a row against the All Blacks since the 1940s.
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009
First time they have won four in a row against the All Blacks since the 1940s.
Against the racially selected, understrength team.
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Thoughts as I watched the game.
The good:
Taylor, Cane, Scooter and Vaai stood up today.
Sititi certainly worth another go.
Ratima should keep starting.
Rekio is a wing – he looked way better there
With Vaai performance today – lock stocks are developing some depth very nicely.The not so good
Noticeably slower service when TJP came on. And he took all 2 fucking seconds to get under the ref’s skin… I feel he is a liability – his experience is cancelled by his mouth… which further reduces the likelihood of any 50/50s going our wayJordon not a 15 for me.
Really dumb penalty by Lomax.
Officiating was simply not up to international standard today – consistency…. never heard of it.
Some baffling decisions both ways – it’s amazing what these guys see and “see” -
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009
First time they have won four in a row against the All Blacks since the 1940s.
Against the racially selected, understrength team.
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009
First time they have won four in a row against the All Blacks since the 1940s.
Against the racially selected, understrength team.
Our white guys were better than your white guys.
When the boks won the series in NZ in … 37? Was that a full strength AB team? I have no idea. Would be interesting to see who was the most dominant team in world rugby up until the boks were banned
How stupid and shortsighted were those racist bastards in government
