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Springboks vs All Blacks 2

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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

    But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

    That's why I'm so frustrated.

    Again some of the subs were lesser players.
    Malcolm Marx made a serious difference too

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    @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

    But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

    That's why I'm so frustrated.

    Again some of the subs were lesser players.
    Malcolm Marx made a serious difference too

    Exactly.

    Make a difference.

    We need players who make an impact.

    We have bench players who come on and add fuck all. The likes of Ofa and Jacobson come to mind.

    Either that or they are actually worse than that (think Perenara, Beauden, Finau last week etc)

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009

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      @Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

      Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009

      First time they have won four in a row against the All Blacks since the 1940s.

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      • K Kiwidom

        We are also one of the dumbest teams in work rugby. Some stupid stuff in second half.

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        @Kiwidom said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

        We are also one of the dumbest teams in work rugby. Some stupid stuff in second half.

        We have 1998 cattle but play with a 2015 game plan

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        • BonesB Bones

          Yuck. Predictable. Well done South Africa but like has been said, you guys aren't playing great. Doing enough though eh.

          The emporer is naked as shit.

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          @Bones still rather be a naked emperor though.

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          • P pakman

            I watched at pub and no ability to watch replay, but it just may be that Willie Le Roux was MOTM for that yellow. If that ball goes to hand must have been a good chance of try. If clear enough then a penalty try.

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            @pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

            I watched at pub and no ability to watch replay, but it just may be that Willie Le Roux was MOTM for that yellow. If that ball goes to hand must have been a good chance of try. If clear enough then a penalty try.

            In fact, Kolbe coming across to cover so would have been foot race between him and Reece.

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              #1157

              Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.

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              • P pakman

                Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.

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                @pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                Match winner if over.

                No. A 2 point lead with 8 minutes remaining.

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                  We couldn’t have looked more erratic today if we tried. Well played Springboks.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                    Match winner if over.

                    No. A 2 point lead with 8 minutes remaining.

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                    #1160

                    @KiwiMurph in that game Boks were only ever going to get over in eight minutes with a lot of luck.

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                      Jet
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                      Why wasnt Jordie taking the long kicks at goal?

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                      • P pakman

                        @KiwiMurph in that game Boks were only ever going to get over in eight minutes with a lot of luck.

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                        @pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                        @KiwiMurph in that game Boks were only ever going to get over in eight minutes with a lot of luck.

                        And yet they seem to win in the last quarter a lot

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                          #1163

                          Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
                          I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
                          I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
                          Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
                          Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.

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                            ABs didn't score when Le Roux was in the bin
                            SA scored 5 pts when Lomax was in the bin

                            That was the difference (almost 😉 )

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                            • Dan54D Dan54

                              Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
                              I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
                              I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
                              Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
                              Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.

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                              Jet
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                              @Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                              Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
                              I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
                              I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
                              Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
                              Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.

                              Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.

                              And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.

                              Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.

                              Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.

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                              • J Jet

                                @Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
                                I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
                                I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
                                Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
                                Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.

                                Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.

                                And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.

                                Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.

                                Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.

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                                stodders
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                                @Jet fitness of the starters isn’t the issue. Lomax and Williams were both going well past 60 mins. Taylor went 80.

                                The issue is that the quality coming off the bench is unable to maintain the levels of the starting XV. ABs bench used to raise the performance levels in last 20. If that were the case today, the game was there to be won.

                                One of the keys for Robertson is to find the right mix of bench players to inject impetus and maintain performance, or even better, raise it to get that late game surge working again.

                                The other is to stop the mistakes. Sometimes there is a time to play. Sometimes there is a time to work from set piece to set piece and be patient. Patience is lacking in the ABs right now and it shows in the leaders.

                                The good news is that the current AB team and coaches were not far from winning both tests in SA against the reigning world champs and current leading SH nation. ABs have been measured and have seen their limitations. Now the major work starts.

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                                • P pakman

                                  Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.

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                                  DMack
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                                  @pakman
                                  Love to see another angle. Looked over on the only angle we could see. He really should have made that

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                                  • J Jet

                                    @Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                    Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
                                    I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
                                    I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
                                    Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
                                    Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.

                                    Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.

                                    And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.

                                    Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.

                                    Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.

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                                    DMack
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                                    @Jet who plays 14 in that scenario?

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                                    • J Jet

                                      @Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                      Another good test I thought. No arguments about the result. The honest truth at moment the Boks are a better team, in general have better players, and coachies.
                                      I not overly upset, they are where we were about 2015, and we perhaps got a couple of years of pain until we get our team settled in, both younger players and coaches learn that test rugby are a bit different beasts..
                                      I thought positives were tighties were good (Vai'i really has come on etc) loosies weren't bad either Sititi had good start to career, we will miss Cane at end of year though..
                                      Backs are struggling a bit and I buggered if I can see Jordan is batter at 15 than 14, but just ny take right or wrong.
                                      Still wonder about our fitness with gameplan, we seem tired in last 20 minutes.

                                      Jordan didnt even look fast during the game. It was weird.

                                      And Reece and Telea are running in treacle.

                                      Get Rieko back out to the wing. He is no centre.

                                      Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.

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                                      BerniesCorner
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                                      @Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                      Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.

                                      The thing is these 4 guys are a potent back 3. We have kind of got this wrong at the moment.

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                                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                        @Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                        Rieko Clarke And Jordan/Love in the back three.

                                        The thing is these 4 guys are a potent back 3. We have kind of got this wrong at the moment.

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                                        stodders
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                                        @BerniesCorner Rieko would be a brilliant closer, able to cover wing and 13. Bring him on to wreak havoc against tired defences.

                                        The make up of the 23 is what is important now

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          ABs by 10. We weren’t fall apart in the last 15 this week.

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                                          Machpants
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                                          @Billy-Tell said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                          ABs by 10. We weren’t fall apart in the last 15 this week.

                                          I wish

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