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  • gt12G gt12

    @ARHS

    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    @ARHS

    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

    He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

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      @gt12 said in Exodus:

      @ARHS

      The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

      You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

      He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

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      @frugby said in Exodus:

      @gt12 said in Exodus:

      @ARHS

      The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

      You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

      He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

      I think that’s fair. But if everyone knows he’s only holding it by default, I’m not sure that inspires confidence.

      What I can say with 100% confidence is that I was at the WC final, and the Boks dealt with Mo’unga with relative ease - once Dmac came on and started using his direct play and passing they were having kittens. Despite the poor kicking by others and the RC, I maintain that if they’d brought Dmac on earlier we would have got home. His passing is the key to unlocking a rush D and we should be designing our attack around it.

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      • F frugby

        @gt12 said in Exodus:

        @ARHS

        The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

        You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

        He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

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        @frugby said in Exodus:

        @gt12 said in Exodus:

        @ARHS

        The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

        You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

        He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

        except of course the moves to bring mounga home were in play before season started

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          @frugby said in Exodus:

          @gt12 said in Exodus:

          @ARHS

          The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

          You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

          He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

          except of course the moves to bring mounga home were in play before season started

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          @ploughboy said in Exodus:

          @frugby said in Exodus:

          @gt12 said in Exodus:

          @ARHS

          The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

          You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

          He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

          except of course the moves to bring mounga home were in play before season started

          That doesn't mean they don't back McKenzie though. There is quite literally no other players in the country even close to an international level first five right now.

          Fact is, we are a DMac injury away from having BB back at 10, with Harry Plummer as his back up.

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            while I agree there aren't any options really outside Dmac if they don't give them a chance over next year or so we will never see if they have it. there are a few young fellas coming through without chasing I guy who has never really owned the poistion

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              while I agree there aren't any options really outside Dmac if they don't give them a chance over next year or so we will never see if they have it. there are a few young fellas coming through without chasing I guy who has never really owned the poistion

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              @ploughboy said in Exodus:

              while I agree there aren't any options really outside Dmac if they don't give them a chance over next year or so we will never see if they have it. there are a few young fellas coming through without chasing I guy who has never really owned the poistion

              Remaining tests this year where we can give a young fella coming thru a chance

              ?Bledisloe 2 if the first test is won easily
              Japan
              Italy

              That’s it. Everything else is bledisloe 1, France in Paris, England at twickenham, Ireland at Dublin.

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              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

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                @stodders said in Exodus:

                @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

                I find it funny that a player that failed to win two World Cups is all of a sudden going to be our savior.

                Too many Crusaders-pilled pundits

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                @Yeetyaah said in Exodus:

                @Canes4life said in Exodus:

                @stodders said in Exodus:

                @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

                I find it funny that a player that failed to win two World Cups is all of a sudden going to be our savior.

                Too many Crusaders-pilled pundits

                Yup social media too. They're the darlings of NZ rugby.

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                  @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

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                  @stodders You took the words right out of my mouth.

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                    Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

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                    ARHS
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                    @family-man said in Exodus:

                    Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

                    Is there any update on this or is it just another one of the pathetic takes appearing between test matches, trying to undermine some AB players and promote others. Can't believe the crap 'articles' I am seeing on planet rugby and fb in recent weeks. I traced a few back to source and found they came out of South Africa. What intrigues me is whether there is any orchestration to this. Some folk really do have it in for Sam Cane it seems...
                    In my view NZ Rugby have caused this situation with their reluctance in providing decent content to media this year. So folks swoop on the sensationalist opinion pieces.
                    The big danger is that this forms subliminal views in the minds of match officials. What do others think?

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                      @family-man said in Exodus:

                      Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

                      Is there any update on this or is it just another one of the pathetic takes appearing between test matches, trying to undermine some AB players and promote others. Can't believe the crap 'articles' I am seeing on planet rugby and fb in recent weeks. I traced a few back to source and found they came out of South Africa. What intrigues me is whether there is any orchestration to this. Some folk really do have it in for Sam Cane it seems...
                      In my view NZ Rugby have caused this situation with their reluctance in providing decent content to media this year. So folks swoop on the sensationalist opinion pieces.
                      The big danger is that this forms subliminal views in the minds of match officials. What do others think?

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                      @ARHS said in Exodus:

                      @family-man said in Exodus:

                      Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

                      Is there any update on this or is it just another one of the pathetic takes appearing between test matches, trying to undermine some AB players and promote others. Can't believe the crap 'articles' I am seeing on planet rugby and fb in recent weeks. I traced a few back to source and found they came out of South Africa. What intrigues me is whether there is any orchestration to this. Some folk really do have it in for Sam Cane it seems...
                      In my view NZ Rugby have caused this situation with their reluctance in providing decent content to media this year. So folks swoop on the sensationalist opinion pieces.
                      The big danger is that this forms subliminal views in the minds of match officials. What do others think?

                      What does McKenzie (not) going to La Rochelle have to do with Sam Cane and match officials?

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                        ARHS
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                        I am talking about fake media beat ups. The ones in the past few weeks have been hitting multiple feeds and usually with a bunch of personal attacks on the players named in the first few comments. E. G. Stuff about deliberate cheating and intention to harm. I don't like seeing this sort of thing (character attacks) when I am looking for genuine updates on teams, injuries and signings etc.
                        I have never seen it anything like this before. That is why I ask the question.

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                          Tyrone Thompson to the nrl apparently

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                            Tyrone Thompson to the nrl apparently

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                            @family-man said in Exodus:

                            Tyrone Thompson to the nrl apparently

                            Didn't we know that, or was that just rumour until now?

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                              Taranaki have granted Tom Franklin an early release so he could take up a club contract in France.

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                                Not sure if it has been mentioned, but Sam Whitelock has joined the coaching staff of the Wild Knights in Japan as an 'advisor'.

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                                  Liam Coltman and D'Angelo Leuila are off to Utah Warriors.

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                                    Leuila being squeezed out at MP with the signing of JGB etc.

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                                      Leuila being squeezed out at MP with the signing of JGB etc.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                      Leuila being squeezed out at MP with the signing of JGB etc.

                                      Which is a shame. He was underused at MP and is probably better that JGB anyway.

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                                        Blair Murray been named in the Wales squad just months after departing NZ

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                                          Blair Murray been named in the Wales squad just months after departing NZ

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                                          @junior12 scored a lovely try last weekend against the Bulls to be fair.
                                          Looks a good footballer.
                                          Highlights the lack of depth we have though in Wales.

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