All Blacks vs Wallabies I
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Probably
- but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies. -
@Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.
is it though? In the modern rugby environment, this is about as close to a nothing game as you can get. If we lose, we don't lose the Bledisloe, in fact we get a test at home to retain it. We can't win the RC. We are playing the 9th ranked team in the world, which in the recent past would see a veritable "B" team rolled out.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.
is it though? In the modern rugby environment, this is about as close to a nothing game as you can get. If we lose, we don't lose the Bledisloe, in fact we get a test at home to retain it. We can't win the RC. We are playing the 9th ranked team in the world, which in the recent past would see a veritable "B" team rolled out.
agreed...scrambling to win a bit of a dead rubber just to save some face...is a bit weak
especially as theyre not bring Sir Richie and DC out of retirement to win it...the safe option is to role out some guys largely out of form just because "experience"
question, what are the rules re the squad? are the actually bound by who they named originally?
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Rubbish backrow, TJ, Jacobson and Reece on the bench is a bit crap. Same Meh as the last few selections.
Ardie and Jordie are VERY lucky, neither have been in great form.
Weaker team this time so we should win by 30+ and all the coaches will say look, see, we were right! Then we'll get owned on the EOYT.
As predictable as it was earlier in the season when this stupid squad was selected.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Probably
- but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Probably
- but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.Oh come on, Aumua is hardly a newbie haha. Sititi and Tosi are injury enforced and Darry wasn't even used last week.
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Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no fool -
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Beaudy straight back in to fullback.
Dont really get it myself.
Id love him to prove me wrong but his goose looked cooked a long time ago.
I wonder if Love would have started if he was available.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Beaudy straight back in to fullback.
Dont really get it myself.
Id love him to prove me wrong but his goose looked cooked a long time ago.
I wonder if Love would have started if he was available.
Looks and sounds like it may have been on the bench in the 23 jersey(which Reece now has). If not, I know the idea was a game next weekend in Wellington if all went well this weekend coming.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Probably
- but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.Oh come on, Aumua is hardly a newbie haha. Sititi and Tosi are injury enforced and Darry wasn't even used last week.
@African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.
The others are all playing in this game.
Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout!
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Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no fool@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no foolThe two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.
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@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no foolThe two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no foolThe two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.
especially after the northern hemisphere had a real crack at them after that last loss as well
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@African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.
The others are all playing in this game.
Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.
The others are all playing in this game.
Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout!
Doesn't make Aumua a newbie. He's been in the environment for years and what comes off the bench these days is just as important as the guys starting. Yes, the others are playing this game, more due to being injury enforced than anything else, and as we saw against the boks, the may not even get used.
Well yeah, not saying pick those guys for one second, but some guys could be moved on.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.
The others are all playing in this game.
Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout!
Doesn't make Aumua a newbie. He's been in the environment for years and what comes off the bench these days is just as important as the guys starting. Yes, the others are playing this game, more due to being injury enforced than anything else, and as we saw against the boks, the may not even get used.
Well yeah, not saying pick those guys for one second, but some guys could be moved on.
@African-Monkey Lets agree that Aumua isn't an experienced test player.
There's still four guys who've debuted this year in the 23. That seems like enough to me.
Hansen spent years telling us how valuable experience is - and was very successful with that mantra. He failed at the end when he went away from it at RWC2019. I tend to agree with him
I don't think there's any great need to rush guys like Procter, Finau, Hotham and especially Bell into the team.
If we win this one, as reprobate says, maybe ease two or three of them into the return fixture.
The main thing IMO is to win!
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Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Form
in SRseems totally irrelevant now.Fixed it. A lot of these guys have been crap for ABs, but the same shit of selecting experience rather than a bit more on form.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Razor is Foster-lite
