All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?
Just shows how tough the step up to international rugby is. Plenty of players have failed to make the leap.
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?
Just shows how tough the step up to international rugby is. Plenty of players have failed to make the leap.
I'm not sure the team pattern is contributing to it too. Razor seems obsessed with getting the ball out wide, which leads to errors from over eager players. But we lack plan B
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Plummer was picked as backup 10 AND 12 wasn't he?
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@BerniesCorner Great team except Sititi to 8 and Blackadder to 6 if fit.
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner Great team except Sititi to 8 and Blackadder to 6 if fit.
Yep I would be happy, and Ardie to bench, almost needs a refresh!
Though Sititi has been bloody good at 6, so can see why they would keep him there too!
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Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
So the team I'd pick is:
De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love
Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
So the team I'd pick is:
De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love
Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,
I don't mind that but Love is out. Bring Reiko to the bench for whoever covers fullback (BB, or Telea to wing, WJ to 15).
Start Cane.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
So the team I'd pick is:
De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love
Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,
I don't mind that but Love is out. Bring Reiko to the bench for whoever covers fullback (BB, or Telea to wing, WJ to 15).
Start Cane.
If Love is out then, I'd give Jordan another shot at fullback and bring in Telea or Reece. Will Jordan is a natural 14 to me, but him being able to play FB might be useful in the future.
The Blackadder vs Cane call on who should start and who should come off the bench should be based on fitness rather than sentiment.
Ireland in Ireland is looking more and more like the Test that will define the ABs' year.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will Sevu get dropped for Telea? Surely Sotutu gets the nod.
How? He's not in the squad.
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@BerniesCorner Great team except Sititi to 8 and Blackadder to 6 if fit.
Yep I would be happy, and Ardie to bench, almost needs a refresh!
Though Sititi has been bloody good at 6, so can see why they would keep him there too!
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Razor's first season couldn't have been tougher. He has at least protected the Eden Park record and the Bledisloe. He is however facing the prospect of 6 or 7 losses this season. Remember also that our record at Wellington hasn't been that flash.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB stinking out the joint
You been watching any footy?
Not only that I read the fern too.
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This season is interesting as a lot hangs on each game. We win Wallabies 2 it's a pass. The wolves are certainly at the door though.
I think the team would be stronger if we had given guys like Love, Plummer, Paps, Darry, Proctor, Aumua more game time off the bench.
Some of the golden oldies need a reset off the pine.
Huge finds this past year in the developing Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Roigard and Ratima
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Razor's first season couldn't have been tougher. He has at least protected the Eden Park record and the Bledisloe. He is however facing the prospect of 6 or 7 losses this season. Remember also that our record at Wellington hasn't been that flash.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Razor's first season couldn't have been tougher. He has at least protected the Eden Park record and the Bledisloe. He is however facing the prospect of 6 or 7 losses this season. Remember also that our record at Wellington hasn't been that flash.
Six would equal our worst year ever (from the 40s)
Seven losses would be a new record.
So far, the one that really pisses me off is Argentina at home. All the others are reasonable losses - and you may burgle one or two away.
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,A frustrating year. Really think Razor should have been an assistant with Foz, Ryan and Schmidt and co at the Rugby World Cup. I kind of think we may have thrown out the baby with the bathwater so to speak, with a complete couching overhaul. Still time will tell.
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The experienced players and so called leaders have sucked in Wellington the last 5 tests or so there
Let the youngsters have a crack. They can hardly do worse
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
The experienced players and so called leaders have sucked in Wellington the last 5 tests or so there
Let the youngsters have a crack. They can hardly do worse
That's a good point, they don't carry the mental baggage from all the previous losses there.
It's also the most established guys like Ardie, TJ, Dmac, ALB, Taylor, etc. who're not executing during key moments.
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Well if words are omens you'd think they'd want to retain Jordan at 15.
'“We were pleased because we know what he can do - how he can control a game and inject his speed,” Robertson said of Jordan. “He took that opportunity.”'
And there was a moment Jordan faced the Wallabies and they all stiffened-they definitely fear his ability. But did he show an ability to control a game? I didn't really see that.
