All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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The experienced players and so called leaders have sucked in Wellington the last 5 tests or so there
Let the youngsters have a crack. They can hardly do worse
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
The experienced players and so called leaders have sucked in Wellington the last 5 tests or so there
Let the youngsters have a crack. They can hardly do worse
That's a good point, they don't carry the mental baggage from all the previous losses there.
It's also the most established guys like Ardie, TJ, Dmac, ALB, Taylor, etc. who're not executing during key moments.
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Well if words are omens you'd think they'd want to retain Jordan at 15.
'“We were pleased because we know what he can do - how he can control a game and inject his speed,” Robertson said of Jordan. “He took that opportunity.”'
And there was a moment Jordan faced the Wallabies and they all stiffened-they definitely fear his ability. But did he show an ability to control a game? I didn't really see that.
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DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?
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@canefan DMac has always been like that. The reason he didn’t seem as bad this was because he didn’t have the crusaders brain trust to expose how awful he is come crunch time. He was atrocious against the blues in the final
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan DMac has always been like that. The reason he didn’t seem as bad this was because he didn’t have the crusaders brain trust to expose how awful he is come crunch time. He was atrocious against the blues in the final
He was outplayed by his opposite in that game, some guy named Plummer....
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Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
So the team I'd pick is:
De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love
Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
I'd be terrified of a front row selection that didn't have Taylor in the 23.
Savea needs to be dropped. At least to the bench. Sititi deserves a start at his preferred position and not against Italy.
Cane was poor against the Wallabies. Not poor by his standards, but genuinely poor. Start Dalton if he's fit.
Blindside can be either Finau or Ethan (if he isn't injured).
If we rest Jordie (who I thought had his best game in Black this year) then surely we can't give ALB a start after that?
Rieko was very good on the weekend but Proctor could come off the bench.
I want Plummer to get some actual time with the ball.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
I'd be terrified of a front row selection that didn't have Taylor in the 23.
Savea needs to be dropped. At least to the bench. Sititi deserves a start at his preferred position and not against Italy.
Cane was poor against the Wallabies. Not poor by his standards, but genuinely poor. Start Dalton if he's fit.
Blindside can be either Finau or Ethan (if he isn't injured).
If we rest Jordie (who I thought had his best game in Black this year) then surely we can't give ALB a start after that?
Rieko was very good on the weekend but Proctor could come off the bench.
I want Plummer to get some actual time with the ball.
@antipodean that sounds logical
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
I'd be terrified of a front row selection that didn't have Taylor in the 23.
Savea needs to be dropped. At least to the bench. Sititi deserves a start at his preferred position and not against Italy.
Cane was poor against the Wallabies. Not poor by his standards, but genuinely poor. Start Dalton if he's fit.
Blindside can be either Finau or Ethan (if he isn't injured).
If we rest Jordie (who I thought had his best game in Black this year) then surely we can't give ALB a start after that?
Rieko was very good on the weekend but Proctor could come off the bench.
I want Plummer to get some actual time with the ball.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
I'd be terrified of a front row selection that didn't have Taylor in the 23.
Savea needs to be dropped. At least to the bench. Sititi deserves a start at his preferred position and not against Italy.
Cane was poor against the Wallabies. Not poor by his standards, but genuinely poor. Start Dalton if he's fit.
Blindside can be either Finau or Ethan (if he isn't injured).
If we rest Jordie (who I thought had his best game in Black this year) then surely we can't give ALB a start after that?
Rieko was very good on the weekend but Proctor could come off the bench.
I want Plummer to get some actual time with the ball.
On Jordie, think he is injured?
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I am seeing a fault with the coach(es) of not being ruthless enough with the underperforming incumbents.
Obviously it cant be easy not selecting an experienced AB in the run on match day 15.
But this is much easier than in the past where now you don't have to completely drop someone from the 23.
A ride on the pine could get back the shine.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
JB did his MCL so is out for a few weeks.
So we're left with ALB after his last effort or Havili..?
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Razor's first season couldn't have been tougher. He has at least protected the Eden Park record and the Bledisloe. He is however facing the prospect of 6 or 7 losses this season. Remember also that our record at Wellington hasn't been that flash.
Six would equal our worst year ever (from the 40s)
Seven losses would be a new record.
So far, the one that really pisses me off is Argentina at home. All the others are reasonable losses - and you may burgle one or two away.
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I'm a big fan of Plummer now days and what he did for the Blues but I don't see him as some kind of saviour. I think his style of play really suited Vernball but I'm not convinced he's right for the style of game that Razor likes to play.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
I'd be terrified of a front row selection that didn't have Taylor in the 23.
Savea needs to be dropped. At least to the bench. Sititi deserves a start at his preferred position and not against Italy.
Cane was poor against the Wallabies. Not poor by his standards, but genuinely poor. Start Dalton if he's fit.
Blindside can be either Finau or Ethan (if he isn't injured).
If we rest Jordie (who I thought had his best game in Black this year) then surely we can't give ALB a start after that?
Rieko was very good on the weekend but Proctor could come off the bench.
I want Plummer to get some actual time with the ball.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
Because we should be more worried about England, Ireland and France away than 10th in world Australia who we should beat by 30+ points at home even with the changes.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
Because we should be more worried about England, Ireland and France away than 10th in world Australia who we should beat by 30+ points at home even with the changes.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
Because we should be more worried about England, Ireland and France away than 10th in world Australia who we should beat by 30+ points at home even with the changes.
So your idea is to rest some of the players we're relying on in the vain hope another loss at home will somehow transform new guys into world beaters?
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@booboo Sevu was like a headless chook, too small at the cleanouts and not as accurate as Telea. Sotutu will probably force his way in through injuries.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@booboo Sevu was like a headless chook, too small at the cleanouts and not as accurate as Telea. Sotutu will probably force his way in through injuries.
Only if there is an injury to Jason Ryan
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Players that should be rested:
Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane
Why?
Because we should be more worried about England, Ireland and France away than 10th in world Australia who we should beat by 30+ points at home even with the changes.
So your idea is to rest some of the players we're relying on in the vain hope another loss at home will somehow transform new guys into world beaters?
