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  • ChrisC Chris

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @george33 so he has joined the squad confirmed

    Good from you George

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    @Chris what's your opinion on Chris ? definitely got potential.

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      Nah man Chay Fihaki? Razor is fucking tweeeeaking.

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        As long as he doesn't play, I don't really care. You gotta say robertson couldn't give a fuck about public opinion though.

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        • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

          What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

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          @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

          What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

          That you have to make an effort on both sides of the ball?

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          • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

            What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

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            @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

            What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

            because he's got similar dimensions to Jordie (102kg over 192cm) and plays 12 unlike Stevenson?

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              @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

              What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

              because he's got similar dimensions to Jordie (102kg over 192cm) and plays 12 unlike Stevenson?

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              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

              @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

              What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

              because he's got similar dimensions to Jordie (102kg over 192cm) and plays 12 unlike Stevenson?

              What? Fihaki plays 12? Have I missed something? (Genuine question)

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                Chay Fihaki…… we aren’t a serious team anymore 😂 Jesus Christ, Razor is not helping the bias accusations with this one. What a joke.

                Emoni Narawa, Shaun Stevenson, Etene Nanai-Seturo just to name a few off the top of the head. Words escape me.

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                  I’m as big a Crusader and Razor fan as they come. But what the hell are they thinking.
                  Definitely a lot better players out there than him.

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                  • D darylmitchell

                    @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                    What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

                    because he's got similar dimensions to Jordie (102kg over 192cm) and plays 12 unlike Stevenson?

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                    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                    What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

                    and plays 12 unlike Stevenson?

                    No he doesn’t.

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                    • G george33

                      @george33 so he has joined the squad confirmed

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                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @george33 so he has joined the squad confirmed

                      The better news is that Wayne Smith has joined the camp in Wellington.

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                        A shame we don't have a competent rugby media. There should be hard questions asked but everyone will be too afraid to rock the boat

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                        • G george33

                          @Chris what's your opinion on Chris ? definitely got potential.

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                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Chris what's your opinion on Chris ? definitely got potential.

                          Yeah good potential but not ready yet imo.

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                            They did ask about ST at the end of that interview with Holland. His answer was very vague.

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                              Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

                              B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

                              I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

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                              • Landers92L Landers92

                                @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2024:

                                What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

                                and plays 12 unlike Stevenson?

                                No he doesn’t.

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                                @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                                Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                                I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                                It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

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                                • F frugby

                                  Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

                                  B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

                                  I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

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                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

                                  B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

                                  I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

                                  I think it would.

                                  I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.

                                  The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.

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                                    BTW, if he is being selected as a midfielder, it would be an even bigger fuck-you to an awful lot of players.

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                                    • F frugby

                                      Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

                                      B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

                                      I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      f Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

                                      Would he be selected if he didn't play for the Crusaders? I don't think so, I think he's a known quantity to the Crusaders dominated coaching group.

                                      I don't care who he plays for, he's never screamed select me for the ABs. But, maybe he'll be one of those guys who rises to the occasion for the ABs?

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        f Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

                                        Would he be selected if he didn't play for the Crusaders? I don't think so, I think he's a known quantity to the Crusaders dominated coaching group.

                                        I don't care who he plays for, he's never screamed select me for the ABs. But, maybe he'll be one of those guys who rises to the occasion for the ABs?

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                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        f Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

                                        Would he be selected if he didn't play for the Crusaders? I don't think so, I think he's a known quantity to the Crusaders dominated coaching group.

                                        I don't care who he plays for, he's never screamed select me for the ABs. But, maybe he'll be one of those guys who rises to the occasion for the ABs?

                                        I like his size, speed, and capability to kick goals, so he has future wing/FB talent. However, he feels quite some time away from that and this is why we should have the AB15 playing right now, as selected by the AB selectors. We could then see where others were in the talent line - of course, when everyone sees that is straight the Crusaders academy, we might see that the emperor has no clothes.

                                        I don't know where, but this bugs me - from a past interview with Razor, he was going on about taking guys from club/academy to the ABs. It seemed a strange thing for the incoming AB coach to be saying, but it jumps out now as it seems like he is still bringing that idea of continuing to give opportunities to those he knows.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Lomax and De Groot have the lowest metres per carry out of all props who have played meaningful minutes in the RC. Newell is pretty hopeless in this facet too.

                                          They're great scrummagers and decent cleaners but they're hopeless with ball in hand. Early on in his career it seemed like this was a strong facet of Lomax but it ain't any more.

                                          Of the starting tight five there isn't a single strong close in runner that can get the tight forwards going up the middle. Taylor makes most of his metres wider.

                                          Metres per carry:

                                          5.5 Tosi
                                          3.6 Taylor
                                          1.9 Darry
                                          1.7 Tuipulotu
                                          1.6 Tu'ungafasi
                                          1.5 Vaa'i
                                          1.3 Williams
                                          1 Barrett
                                          1 Aumua
                                          0.7 Newell
                                          0.5 De Groot
                                          0.4 Lomax

                                          Unsurprisingly the 3 Blues tight forwards are strong in this facet but they are clearly out of favour.

                                          There's a lack of variety in our game which makes us predictable. We went more up the middle against the Puma's at Eden Park and that was probably our best game of the year.

                                          If you think the All Blacks problems lie in the tight five, I can't help you.

                                          Think there is probably something also to be said for the fact that de Groot and Lomax's minutes come in the first half, where in theory the game is less open... and these stats are incredibly volatile, because one 15m run where a player gets put in a hole could affect this by up to a metre.

                                          The tight 5 is the least of our worries, some of the props coming of the bench may also not have had any or very little carries due to what has been happening in the last 20 minutes.

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                                          @Chris

                                          There is a serious lack of go forward in the tight five. They are failing in an important part of the modern game.

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