All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
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Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
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One of the key questions is whether or not Vaa'i is a hundy.
An interesting fact is that we went much better in last 20 against England, but couldn't unlock rush D.
Reverse the case in TRC.
Modest rotation, so we can assess the impact of changes.
EDG/Aumua/Lomax TW/Taylor/Tosi all to be on by 65. Aumua gets proper start. Codie's experience at close important.
Scooter/Darry Prefer Darry as starter and get proper minutes. Vaa'i for impact at HT. Consider Paddy T to come on at 60, if 6 - 2 tried.
Cane/Finau/Sititi Balanced loosies. RD off bench for impact. Alternative of Papali'i for Cane or Bladder for Finau, but less balance.
Ratima/DMac Works well to start. TJS and BB off bench.
Proctor/Ioane Try and keep same flow. ALB bench if we don't go 6 -2
Clarke/Perofeta/Jordan Stevie was very good steering from 15 against England. BB on at 55.
Possibilities at that point of WJ to 15, DMac to 15 or BB to 15.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
Um, and if we want a 6 / lock, there's a fucking guy there!
Finau isn't dead.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
Um, and if we want a 6 / lock, there's a fucking guy there!
Finau isn't dead.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
Um, and if we want a 6 / lock, there's a fucking guy there!
Finau isn't dead.
There are seven loosies in current squad.
Scraggers: RD, Blackadder, Sititi, Papali'i
Shoulders: Cane, Finau, Jacobson
We ought to have one of the latter group on the field at all times.
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First sensible design this coaching group has made
@canefan Not really new, is it? Smith is Robertson';s mentor and is involved as a performance coach/mentor for the All Blacks and Black Ferns already:
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Alright everyone, we are saved. Wayne Smith has joined the ABs in Wellington. About time they've brought in a coach with some sense.
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@canefan Not really new, is it? Smith is Robertson';s mentor and is involved as a performance coach/mentor for the All Blacks and Black Ferns already:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan Not really new, is it? Smith is Robertson';s mentor and is involved as a performance coach/mentor for the All Blacks and Black Ferns already:
If Robertson is reaching out for help, good for him. Zero shame asking for help when you've very new to the job.
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan Not really new, is it? Smith is Robertson';s mentor and is involved as a performance coach/mentor for the All Blacks and Black Ferns already:
If Robertson is reaching out for help, good for him. Zero shame asking for help when you've very new to the job.
Agree 100%.
This feels similar to Panadol leaving - if things are not going right, take action.
If they are wondering if it is their coaching, approach, preparation, fitness, it would be hard to find a better pair of eyes than Smith's.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
JB did his MCL so is out for a few weeks.
So we're left with ALB after his last effort or Havili..?
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
JB did his MCL so is out for a few weeks.
So we're left with ALB after his last effort or Havili..?
Jordie is injured and they are at home so they could call in players who know how to win on their own home patch. Like a Plummer or Lam...
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
JB did his MCL so is out for a few weeks.
So we're left with ALB after his last effort or Havili..?
Jordie is injured and they are at home so they could call in players who know how to win on their own home patch. Like a Plummer or Lam...
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
JB did his MCL so is out for a few weeks.
So we're left with ALB after his last effort or Havili..?
Jordie is injured and they are at home so they could call in players who know how to win on their own home patch. Like a Plummer or Lam...
But the game is in Wellington....
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
JB did his MCL so is out for a few weeks.
So we're left with ALB after his last effort or Havili..?
Jordie is injured and they are at home so they could call in players who know how to win on their own home patch. Like a Plummer or Lam...
But the game is in Wellington....
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Jordie is injured and they are at home so they could call in players who know how to win on their own home patch. Like a Plummer or Lam...
But the game is in Wellington....
I said on their own home patch. Unlike AB Canes who can't win in Wellington.
So surely they can take their winning game down the road a mere 8 hours.. -
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Jordie is injured and they are at home so they could call in players who know how to win on their own home patch. Like a Plummer or Lam...
But the game is in Wellington....
I said on their own home patch. Unlike AB Canes who can't win in Wellington.
So surely they can take their winning game down the road a mere 8 hours.. -
The issue is clearly mental. It almost looks like it's become a block in that it's expected now, and the team struggles as it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Either that, or our fitness is just miles behind the others, which is the easiest way to explain it. The first half was embarrassing for Australia, we looked like we were playing minnows and just couldn't get the execution 100% to avoid it being a 40/50 nil half time score.
Second half it almost reversed. That can't have anything to do with physical skills / ability. It has to be the top two inches.
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The issue is clearly mental. It almost looks like it's become a block in that it's expected now, and the team struggles as it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Either that, or our fitness is just miles behind the others, which is the easiest way to explain it. The first half was embarrassing for Australia, we looked like we were playing minnows and just couldn't get the execution 100% to avoid it being a 40/50 nil half time score.
Second half it almost reversed. That can't have anything to do with physical skills / ability. It has to be the top two inches.
@MajorRage
We don’t use our bench very well either, so it could be fitness or fitness plus bench usage.
Let me put it this way - I highly doubt that the Springbok forwards are fitter than ours (as a collective), but a 6-2 bench and early substitutions makes a world of difference there.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
Um, and if we want a 6 / lock, there's a fucking guy there!
Finau isn't dead.
There are seven loosies in current squad.
Scraggers: RD, Blackadder, Sititi, Papali'i
Shoulders: Cane, Finau, Jacobson
We ought to have one of the latter group on the field at all times.
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Just for fun I'd like to see Darry and Vaai at lock, Barrett at 6, Sititi at 8, and Dalton at 7. Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB(JB is out, better than DH) Reiko, Jordan, BB. Reiko to move to wing when Proctor comes on at centre after halftime. DMac could be on the bench to cover 10 and 15, especially if Plummer can't handle the jandal. If we get injuries everyone will just need to muck in, like SA do
If you are going to play a lock at 6 it should be Vaa'i. But why?
Um, and if we want a 6 / lock, there's a fucking guy there!
Finau isn't dead.
There are seven loosies in current squad.
Scraggers: RD, Blackadder, Sititi, Papali'i
Shoulders: Cane, Finau, Jacobson
We ought to have one of the latter group on the field at all times.
Ideally 2 with shoulders.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
Hohepa ? Nah, he can't tackle.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
Hohepa ? Nah, he can't tackle.
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
Hohepa ? Nah, he can't tackle.
Is that the same guy who play 10 for the Sith? Surprised he's missed out.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
Hohepa ? Nah, he can't tackle.
Is that the same guy who play 10 for the Sith? Surprised he's missed out.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?
Isn't the Steelers 12 looking handy?
Hohepa ? Nah, he can't tackle.
Is that the same guy who play 10 for the Sith? Surprised he's missed out.
Poihipi is injured.
