2024 NZ Schools Rugby
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The Australia U18 squad has been named today (see @Bovidae's post).
I've only been able to read some reports of the trial between Australia U18 and the ASRU Schools side, there was no video footage freely available. I was surprised the trial games were so close, I was expecting the U18s to comfortably blow out the Schools side. So either the Schools team is better than expected or there might be some issues with the U18 side.
The standouts of the U18 team seem to be in the loose forwards and the backline, with the most high-profile athletes seemingly destined to end up in the NRL: the number 8, Heinz Lemoto (Penrith Panthers), the winger Heamasi Makasini (Wests Tigers) and the fullback Rex Bassingthwaite (Sydney Roosters).
There are some rugby league highlights available of Lemoto:
It doesn't really say much of his ability in the upcoming games, but, if anything, he should be a handful to tackle. I wasn't always convinced of some of the individual defensive efforts of the NZ Schools loosies, so Lemoto might have a good impact.
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The Australia U18 squad has been named today (see @Bovidae's post).
I've only been able to read some reports of the trial between Australia U18 and the ASRU Schools side, there was no video footage freely available. I was surprised the trial games were so close, I was expecting the U18s to comfortably blow out the Schools side. So either the Schools team is better than expected or there might be some issues with the U18 side.
The standouts of the U18 team seem to be in the loose forwards and the backline, with the most high-profile athletes seemingly destined to end up in the NRL: the number 8, Heinz Lemoto (Penrith Panthers), the winger Heamasi Makasini (Wests Tigers) and the fullback Rex Bassingthwaite (Sydney Roosters).
There are some rugby league highlights available of Lemoto:
It doesn't really say much of his ability in the upcoming games, but, if anything, he should be a handful to tackle. I wasn't always convinced of some of the individual defensive efforts of the NZ Schools loosies, so Lemoto might have a good impact.
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@Mauss They looked to have split their U18 teams for those trial games with Australia U18 Gold the stronger (based on results).
@Bovidae You can find the lineups of the Australia U18 Gold and Green teams for the trials here:
https://xplorer.rugby/rugby-au-academyThere was some cross-over of the Gold and Green teams, as several players of the Green team were on the Gold U18 bench against the ASRU Schools team. Most of the players who didn't make the cut were in team Green, all starting players of Gold U18 seem to have been selected.
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So it looks like Tevita Tatafu is the lock that is injured for NZ Schools? I'd say that's a pretty big loss for the team as I presumed he would be both the primary target in the lineout as well as the caller. Makes sense that they've gone for Tocker at blindside as a good lineout target, although that might put some more pressure on the breakdown.
Bronson Van Der Heyden also seems like a new addition to the Barbarian U18s. They should provide a good challenge for the Australia U18s.
It looks like the games will be livestreamed on NZ Rugby's Youtube channel.
I won't be able to watch the games live, unfortunately, but hopefully they'll just be available for replay afterwards.
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So it looks like Tevita Tatafu is the lock that is injured for NZ Schools? I'd say that's a pretty big loss for the team as I presumed he would be both the primary target in the lineout as well as the caller. Makes sense that they've gone for Tocker at blindside as a good lineout target, although that might put some more pressure on the breakdown.
Bronson Van Der Heyden also seems like a new addition to the Barbarian U18s. They should provide a good challenge for the Australia U18s.
It looks like the games will be livestreamed on NZ Rugby's Youtube channel.
I won't be able to watch the games live, unfortunately, but hopefully they'll just be available for replay afterwards.
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Australia U18
1 Kingsley Uys - The Southport School
2 John Grenfell - Nudgee College
3 Edwin Langi - Eastern Suburbs Rugby Club
4 Will Ross - Padua College
5 Isaac Fonua - The King's School
6 Eli Langi - Brisbane State High School
7 Tom Robinson (c) - UQ Rugby Club
8 Heinz Lemoto - The Scots College
9 Angus Grover - St Igantius College, Riverview
10 Jonty Fowler - St Joseph's College
11 Heamasi Makasini - Newington College
12 Josh Takai - Brothers Rugby Club
13 Frankie Goldsbrough (vc) - Easts Rugby Club
14 Tom Howard - Marist College Ashgrove
15 Rex Bassingthwaighte - The Shore SchoolReserves
16 Ewald Kruger - GPS Rugby Club
17 Nick Hill - Barker College
18 Jonah Rangiwai - The Southport School
19 Avery Thomson - GPS Rugby Club
20 Luca Cleverley - Newington College
21 Sam Blank - St Augustine's College
22 Finn Mackay - St Laurence's College
23 Zach Fittler - The Scots College -
A squad update to the Barbarians U18s.
Scores from today:
Australia U18 57 - 47 NZ Barbarians U18 (HT: 38 - 21)
Aust has some big forwards who are very good ball-carriers, particularly the LH prop Kingsley Uys, blindside flanker Eli Langi and no.8 Heinz Lemoto. Their 1st 5 Jonty Fowler controlled play well and the left winger Heamasi Makasiini was very dangerous. As you can see from the score the NZ Barbarians U18s didn't have any problems scoring themselves. Some inaccurate play and turnovers proved costly in the end.
NZ Schools 91 - 5 Samoa U18 (HT: 46 - 0)
As expected, this was a thrashing. Samoa had their moments but handling errors and getting on the wrong side of the ref didn't help. No.8 Saumaki Saumaki was the POTY for me (at least 3 tries), and his Nelson College teammate and 1st Harry Inch pulled the strings in the backs. A big game also from Nico Stanley (who also got a hat-trick). The relatives/parents of some of the Nelson College players were sitting next to me and were very vocal.
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A squad update to the Barbarians U18s.
Scores from today:
Australia U18 57 - 47 NZ Barbarians U18 (HT: 38 - 21)
Aust has some big forwards who are very good ball-carriers, particularly the LH prop Kingsley Uys, blindside flanker Eli Langi and no.8 Heinz Lemoto. Their 1st 5 Jonty Fowler controlled play well and the left winger Heamasi Makasiini was very dangerous. As you can see from the score the NZ Barbarians U18s didn't have any problems scoring themselves. Some inaccurate play and turnovers proved costly in the end.
NZ Schools 91 - 5 Samoa U18 (HT: 46 - 0)
As expected, this was a thrashing. Samoa had their moments but handling errors and getting on the wrong side of the ref didn't help. No.8 Saumaki Saumaki was the POTY for me (at least 3 tries), and his Nelson College teammate and 1st Harry Inch pulled the strings in the backs. A big game also from Nico Stanley (who also got a hat-trick). The relatives/parents of some of the Nelson College players were sitting next to me and were very vocal.
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I've just been able to watch the games. The Barbarians U18s will probably be disappointed with some moments in defense, where the Australian U18s were just able to get over the line a little bit too easily. That being said, the Aussie U18s were really efficient on turnover ball, some great offloads and kicks leading to tries.
And as the game went on, and the Australia U18s realized they could keep on recycling the ball phase after phase, they just basically had to wait until a gap opened up in the Barbarian defense (Kingsley Uys especially being good at finding/forcing these gaps).
I thought Micah Fale stood up well in his role as captain, carrying aggressively in attack and working hard in defense. From the Australians, I thought their halfback pairing went really well, good orchestration of the attack, both through kicking and passing.
I don't think there's a whole lot to say about the NZ Schools game. Samoa U18 kept on working but it was just a little too easy for the NZ Schools forwards and backs to make metres. For NZ Schools, they'll want to work on the breakdown. Australia U18 effectively targeted the Barbarian ruck so they'll pose a bigger challenge than Samoa there.
All in all, fun games to watch. I thought the quality of the stream was an improvement on recent years as well.
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I've just been able to watch the games. The Barbarians U18s will probably be disappointed with some moments in defense, where the Australian U18s were just able to get over the line a little bit too easily. That being said, the Aussie U18s were really efficient on turnover ball, some great offloads and kicks leading to tries.
And as the game went on, and the Australia U18s realized they could keep on recycling the ball phase after phase, they just basically had to wait until a gap opened up in the Barbarian defense (Kingsley Uys especially being good at finding/forcing these gaps).
I thought Micah Fale stood up well in his role as captain, carrying aggressively in attack and working hard in defense. From the Australians, I thought their halfback pairing went really well, good orchestration of the attack, both through kicking and passing.
I don't think there's a whole lot to say about the NZ Schools game. Samoa U18 kept on working but it was just a little too easy for the NZ Schools forwards and backs to make metres. For NZ Schools, they'll want to work on the breakdown. Australia U18 effectively targeted the Barbarian ruck so they'll pose a bigger challenge than Samoa there.
All in all, fun games to watch. I thought the quality of the stream was an improvement on recent years as well.
It's also hard to know what the best starting XV for the NZ Schools is. Some players were replaced at HT and there were plenty of changes in the 2nd half, including a reshuffle of the backline. Sinkinson (hooker) even come back on replace Saumaki when he went off. This was the game to try out some combinations.
Tocker looked taller than either starting lock, and I'm not sure Falloon starts against Aust. Sinton will probably start at halfback but the NC 9/10 combo works well.
They had multiple cameras for the coverage compared to previous years.
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It's also hard to know what the best starting XV for the NZ Schools is. Some players were replaced at HT and there were plenty of changes in the 2nd half, including a reshuffle of the backline. Sinkinson (hooker) even come back on replace Saumaki when he went off. This was the game to try out some combinations.
Tocker looked taller than either starting lock, and I'm not sure Falloon starts against Aust. Sinton will probably start at halfback but the NC 9/10 combo works well.
They had multiple cameras for the coverage compared to previous years.
@Bovidae Yeah, talking about the NZ Schools backline, at a certain point it was very hard to work out who was playing where. Inch and Verster were constantly interchanging at first receiver, but I think Inch moved to fullback when Norrie went off? I'll have to take another look at another time.
I think Australia U18 will have taken a lot out of their game against the Barbarians, so they should be well prepared for the game on Sunday. Like you said, they have a lot of solid athletes and carriers, so if the Australians can shore up their defense, it should be a good contest.
Apparently, the NZ Schools coaches do view someone like Hutchings as a potential openside. But, if Aio Keith isn't injured, I do expect the latter to start at 7 against Australia.
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It's also hard to know what the best starting XV for the NZ Schools is. Some players were replaced at HT and there were plenty of changes in the 2nd half, including a reshuffle of the backline. Sinkinson (hooker) even come back on replace Saumaki when he went off. This was the game to try out some combinations.
Tocker looked taller than either starting lock, and I'm not sure Falloon starts against Aust. Sinton will probably start at halfback but the NC 9/10 combo works well.
They had multiple cameras for the coverage compared to previous years.
@Bovidae said in 2024 NZ Schools Rugby:
and I'm not sure Falloon starts against Aust
I'm having a quick rewatch of the game, focusing on some specific players including Falloon, and I've been impressed by his mobility and work-rate. Compared to Frazer Brown's game against the Australia U18s, for example, Falloon seems to exhibit a lot of physicality and intensity in the carry and clean (Brown wasn't poor by any means for the Barbarians but he did seem to lack a bit of fitness, at times). Falloon had some big carries through the middle, especially in the first half, and was a reliable source of lineout ball.
Did you notice anything at the ground about his game which makes you doubt he starts against Australia?
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@Bovidae said in 2024 NZ Schools Rugby:
and I'm not sure Falloon starts against Aust
I'm having a quick rewatch of the game, focusing on some specific players including Falloon, and I've been impressed by his mobility and work-rate. Compared to Frazer Brown's game against the Australia U18s, for example, Falloon seems to exhibit a lot of physicality and intensity in the carry and clean (Brown wasn't poor by any means for the Barbarians but he did seem to lack a bit of fitness, at times). Falloon had some big carries through the middle, especially in the first half, and was a reliable source of lineout ball.
Did you notice anything at the ground about his game which makes you doubt he starts against Australia?
@Mauss said in 2024 NZ Schools Rugby:
Did you notice anything at the ground about his game which makes you doubt he starts against Australia?
The choice of locks will depend on the makeup of the loose forwards, and particularly the fitness of Saumaki. He was very impressive, and there isn't a like-for-like replacement if his injury is serious. Falloon wasn't bad but his hands let him down a couple of times, including losing the ball in contact near the Samoan goal-line. I thought McLeod was the better of the starting locks - a good workrate and strong in the carry. Giera is a beanpole while Falloon has some size.
Given the difference in the quality of the opposition, Brown was one of the better performing Barbarians forwards for me, along with Raviyawa.
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@Mauss said in 2024 NZ Schools Rugby:
Did you notice anything at the ground about his game which makes you doubt he starts against Australia?
The choice of locks will depend on the makeup of the loose forwards, and particularly the fitness of Saumaki. He was very impressive, and there isn't a like-for-like replacement if his injury is serious. Falloon wasn't bad but his hands let him down a couple of times, including losing the ball in contact near the Samoan goal-line. I thought McLeod was the better of the starting locks - a good workrate and strong in the carry. Giera is a beanpole while Falloon has some size.
Given the difference in the quality of the opposition, Brown was one of the better performing Barbarians forwards for me, along with Raviyawa.
@Bovidae I would guess that if Saumaki is injured, Spratley comes in at number 8? He doesn't pose the same threat but he's a very good player in his own right.
I agree that McLeod was very good. Compared to Falloon, I guess that he was a bit more prominent in open play? But they both had different roles, so I find it hard to compare their performances. I just felt that Falloon did well, considering he was called in from the Barbarians. He didn't look out of place to me.
Brown was excellent in the lineout and the maul, and had some good moments in attack. But there were several instances - for example, for Australia U18s third try - where he didn't drift in defense, leaving the Barbarians defensive line a man short and creating the easy overlap for the Aussie U18s.
