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All Blacks XV 2024

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    middleman
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    Couldn’t agree more Boo-boo.. There are more than 30+ tests before the next World Cup and this idea of every game being a World Cup trial is stupid. Yes you have to try new players out and while not a great Robertson fan he has done well in uncovering some good new talent but the game in front of you is the most important.

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      I don't think Ricky Riccitelli would have made a major difference during the Rugby Championship. Let's put it that way.

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        I think it would be healthy for Aumua to have some competition. His form has been a mixed bag this year at test level.

        George Bell gave away a couple of dumb penalties including a yellow yesterday. His discipline is quite poor. Is he a guy we can really rely on under the acid test of test rugby if one of the top guys gets injured? I'd rather Riccitelli.

        Riccitelli is a very reliable player and good in every facet. His game doesn't really have any weaknesses.

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        • M Mr Fish

          I don't think Ricky Riccitelli would have made a major difference during the Rugby Championship. Let's put it that way.

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          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          I don't think Ricky Riccitelli would have made a major difference during the Rugby Championship. Let's put it that way.

          I don't think anyone is saying that.

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            I don't think Ricky Riccitelli would have made a major difference during the Rugby Championship. Let's put it that way.

            I don't think anyone is saying that.

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            Mr Fish
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            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            I don't think Ricky Riccitelli would have made a major difference during the Rugby Championship. Let's put it that way.

            I don't think anyone is saying that.

            If they're not going to make a difference now then the All Blacks should largely be picking guys who will make the most difference in the when they're needed in the future.

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              I don't think Ricky Riccitelli would have made a major difference during the Rugby Championship. Let's put it that way.

              I don't think anyone is saying that.

              If they're not going to make a difference now then the All Blacks should largely be picking guys who will make the most difference in the when they're needed in the future.

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              @Mr-Fish

              Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

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                @Mr-Fish

                Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

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                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Mr-Fish

                Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                There is pressure to stay there.

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                  All comes down to what is the prupose of the team is. There is nothing to gain putting All Blacks at the back end of their careers or Super battlers on the tour. All the guys going aaay have spent multiple Super seasons like the likes of Perenara, Cane or players of similR experience. RR is a fine player. He will never be an All Black though. The oldest AB debutant in the professional era was Dave Hewitt more than 20 years ago. RR will be older than him at the end of the Super season. He has been a great servant of NZ Rugby. His type of player, interms of where his carrer is at just doesn't match what the squad is for.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Mr-Fish

                    Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                    There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                    There is pressure to stay there.

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                    @Chris

                    There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @Mr-Fish

                      Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                      There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                      There is pressure to stay there.

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                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @Mr-Fish

                      Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                      There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                      There is pressure to stay there.

                      There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                      They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Mr-Fish

                        Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                        There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                        There is pressure to stay there.

                        There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                        They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

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                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Mr-Fish

                        Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                        There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                        There is pressure to stay there.

                        There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                        They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                        If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

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                          @Chris

                          There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

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                          @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          @Chris

                          There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

                          That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
                          And don’t say lineout throwing Aumua has been unreliable at that this year,
                          And yellow cards Aumua has been pinged for a lot of yellow cards in the past for bad tackle technique.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Mr-Fish

                            Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                            There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                            There is pressure to stay there.

                            There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                            They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                            If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

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                            KiwiMurph
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                            @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Mr-Fish

                            Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                            There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                            There is pressure to stay there.

                            There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                            They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                            If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                            The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Mr-Fish

                              Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                              There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                              There is pressure to stay there.

                              There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                              They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                              If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                              The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

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                              canefan
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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Mr-Fish

                              Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                              There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                              There is pressure to stay there.

                              There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                              They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                              If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                              The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

                              Plummer and Proctor too...

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Mr-Fish

                                Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                                There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                                There is pressure to stay there.

                                There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                                They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                                If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                                The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

                                Plummer and Proctor too...

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                                Chris
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                                @canefan said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Mr-Fish

                                Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                                There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                                There is pressure to stay there.

                                There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                                They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                                If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                                The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

                                Plummer and Proctor too...

                                Yeah them as well

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                                  BerniesCorner
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                                  I miss Bunce at 13

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                                    Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                                      Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                                      Mr Fish
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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

                                      He deserves it.

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                                        https://archive.is/9ZOQQ#selection-1829.0-1853.176

                                        Otago and Highlanders lock Fabian Holland is eligible for All Blacks or All Blacks XV selection with immediate effect, the Sunday Star-Times can reveal.

                                        Holland, the Netherlands-born giant who only turns 22 next week, moved to New Zealand as a 16-year-old and has risen through the ranks at speed.

                                        He was not expected to become eligible for the All Blacks until late 2025, but a World Rugby eligibility change that kicked in on August 1 has dramatically changed the picture.

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                                          Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                                          @frugby any knowledge of any of the other Otago based players?

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