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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • B brodean

    @Mr-Fish

    Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    @Mr-Fish

    Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

    There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
    There is pressure to stay there.

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      All comes down to what is the prupose of the team is. There is nothing to gain putting All Blacks at the back end of their careers or Super battlers on the tour. All the guys going aaay have spent multiple Super seasons like the likes of Perenara, Cane or players of similR experience. RR is a fine player. He will never be an All Black though. The oldest AB debutant in the professional era was Dave Hewitt more than 20 years ago. RR will be older than him at the end of the Super season. He has been a great servant of NZ Rugby. His type of player, interms of where his carrer is at just doesn't match what the squad is for.

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        @Mr-Fish

        Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

        There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
        There is pressure to stay there.

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        brodean
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        @Chris

        There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          @Mr-Fish

          Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

          There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
          There is pressure to stay there.

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          KiwiMurph
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          #173

          @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          @Mr-Fish

          Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

          There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
          There is pressure to stay there.

          There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

          They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @Mr-Fish

            Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

            There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
            There is pressure to stay there.

            There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

            They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

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            Chris
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            #174

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @Mr-Fish

            Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

            There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
            There is pressure to stay there.

            There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

            They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

            If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

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            • B brodean

              @Chris

              There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

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              Chris
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              #175

              @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              @Chris

              There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

              That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
              And don’t say lineout throwing Aumua has been unreliable at that this year,
              And yellow cards Aumua has been pinged for a lot of yellow cards in the past for bad tackle technique.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Mr-Fish

                Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                There is pressure to stay there.

                There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

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                KiwiMurph
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                #176

                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Mr-Fish

                Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                There is pressure to stay there.

                There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Mr-Fish

                  Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                  There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                  There is pressure to stay there.

                  There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                  They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                  If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                  The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

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                  canefan
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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Mr-Fish

                  Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                  There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                  There is pressure to stay there.

                  There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                  They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                  If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                  The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

                  Plummer and Proctor too...

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Mr-Fish

                    Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                    There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                    There is pressure to stay there.

                    There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                    They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                    If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                    The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

                    Plummer and Proctor too...

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                    Chris
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                    #178

                    @canefan said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Mr-Fish

                    Aumua needs pressure on him and Bell isn't providing that because he's ill disciplined and has an unreliable lineout.

                    There is plenty of Pressure on Aumua he is not doing much to retain his place in the squad.
                    There is pressure to stay there.

                    There's not plenty of pressure on Aumua.

                    They never give a 3rd hooker any game time regardless of how Aumua is playing

                    If they do Aumua is out once ST comes back

                    The point is that they don't. Bledisloe 2 seemed like a perfect opportunity to give Bell some game time but.... nothing.

                    Plummer and Proctor too...

                    Yeah them as well

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                      BerniesCorner
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                      I miss Bunce at 13

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                        frugby
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                        #180

                        Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                        • F frugby

                          Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                          Mr Fish
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                          @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

                          He deserves it.

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                            https://archive.is/9ZOQQ#selection-1829.0-1853.176

                            Otago and Highlanders lock Fabian Holland is eligible for All Blacks or All Blacks XV selection with immediate effect, the Sunday Star-Times can reveal.

                            Holland, the Netherlands-born giant who only turns 22 next week, moved to New Zealand as a 16-year-old and has risen through the ranks at speed.

                            He was not expected to become eligible for the All Blacks until late 2025, but a World Rugby eligibility change that kicked in on August 1 has dramatically changed the picture.

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                            • F frugby

                              Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                              KiwiInLondon
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                              @frugby any knowledge of any of the other Otago based players?

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                                pakman
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                                https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529986/all-blacks-end-of-year-tour-who-makes-the-squad

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  Scott Robertson confirms Finlay Christie will join Noah Hotham in being named in the All Blacks XV tomorrow.
                                  Four to six players from that squad will join the All Blacks in Japan

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                                  • F frugby

                                    Cam Millar set to be in NZ XV I am hearing.

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                                    SBW1
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                                    @frugby That is a good sign, depth in ten finally being addressed.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @Chris

                                      There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

                                      That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
                                      And don’t say lineout throwing Aumua has been unreliable at that this year,
                                      And yellow cards Aumua has been pinged for a lot of yellow cards in the past for bad tackle technique.

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                                      antipodean
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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @Chris

                                      There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

                                      That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.

                                      We could look at his performances in SR...

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Chris

                                        There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

                                        That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.

                                        We could look at his performances in SR...

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                                        Chris
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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Chris

                                        There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.

                                        That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.

                                        We could look at his performances in SR...

                                        He may step up the Crusaders enviroment wasn’t a good one to perform in this season.Plummer was poor in Npc
                                        Bell was good in the chances they had.
                                        I would still try Plummer as well.

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                                          Chris B.
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                                          Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible. 🙂

                                          6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)

                                          3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)

                                          3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware

                                          5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie

                                          3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava

                                          2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb

                                          3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea

                                          4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki

                                          *possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?

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